Najia Iching dailies Mjedi: December 2012

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Just the actual of current lunar period pairs or tosses referencing for global's and masses currently used for images here.

Solar month of the IX Ren Yang water Rat start Dec 6th here.

All countries shared type.

Has a Leo physical.

The Sun ruling that and of consciousness in expressions areas and activities in Scorpio 4th areas.

Saturn is in 3rd Libra areas ruling and taking in that of the Capricorn 6th and Aquarius 7th type areas into it.

U.S. Month:

There is one problem with our month chart as listing it currently showing as a Virgo physical but may be possible it's actually a Leo physical.

Vedic eastern zodiac used.

Have about a 2 degree difference on cusps between programs which can put it at the end of Leo or the very begining of Virgo.

Small differences over a few centuries can add add up it would actually make more sense if a Leo physical as that would put Saturn in 3rd areas where lots of troubles have been.

Don't want to second guess it though better to observe.

No harm if a couple days go by and can toss and observe as a tremedous difference in physical natures so shouln't be hard.

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Anyway the solar month is in Leo so we can simply transfer the placements to it and have both in one!

Is a Leo physical and done, updated!

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Our own new month has a Leo type physical with *11th type Gemini areas covering *groups, allies*, goals*, business profits and more is definitely quite main in things for it and our month both ruled vis the Sun and Mercury in and from Scorpio 4th type areas.

Doesn't start the same days as Solar did the Moon ruling the 12th areas for it is in the Virgo 2nd material areas.

Mercury in Scorpio 4th areas rules both the physical and Outer 11th event, groups, goals, profits etc events areas.

It is accompanied by Rahu and the Sun there. The Sun rules Leo 1st type areas bringing those to the 4th areas as well.

Rahu vis some said to rule Aquarius of 7th areas bringing that to it as well.

Both Rahu and Ketu the karmic moon's nodes said to be ruled by Saturn.

Saturn is in Libra 3rd type areas so brings that there too and since Venus accompanies Saturn too so that of Taurus 10th Outer event areas where Jupiter rx and Ketu are bring all of that plus *Mars in Sag 5th areas* and Aquarius 7th relationships areas to it.

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[Mars always indicate actions, drives, passions, and often how actions are carried out, plus takes in that of the electrical and electronics areas, that of the fiery or disruptive of any type and energy, plus the accidental and fires then all areas as they relate to finances, credits and other too.

Mars is currently very important with a focus to Leo type areas also and rules both that of the Scorpio 4th and Aries 9th type areas.

Mars (Mangel) is ruling the Sun's and therefore individual's conscious expressions in activities also which in turn have a Cancer 12th areas type of focus themselves also this zone.

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Weighing in and for motivations too is Venus.(Shukra) and her areas. She is on a par and just exceeding the strength of Mar's itself in this chart for her areas and actions this zone.

*Venus also has a focus to the Leo physical areas!*.

Venus is in Libra 3rd areas, and rasi aka sign conjunct with Saturn there.

Venus rules the Libra 3rd and Taurus 10th areas and in this case is the main chart ruler, actually ruling the Leo physical and therefore like Mar's also the Sun's expression in Scorpio 4th type areas also.

Venus and Mars are the biggest movers and shakers governing the chart at month level alone then separately causing the most noise and attention to their areas this month are Venus, and Saturn in Libra 3rd areas plus the Moon in Virgo 2nd areas!

Venus and Mars are mainly ruling the physical also as they powerfully influence the Sun itself *Authority* who is weaker than they are in that rules the sign Leo which is our physical this month.

[The other maybe more proper picture is it's normally narrowed down to one ruler of physical which would be Venus and to that the ruler of the somewhat karmic (pasts based) in nature of the muntha for the chart. That being Gemini 11th areas which Mercury rules.

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So taking it down to two main in ruling the chart itself is that of *Venus and Mercury areas in it*].

They and all the remaining in this chart or month sre also still fully under control of our Saturn dasha period which describes the nature and character of many of the events within it and for the quarter.

The 3rd Libra areas are the more difficult at this time due to our current *dashas being of Saturn a main area for actions and events in it's character also there now*.

In this that of long distances can be deadly involving *5th type areas* in some or most as well.

At the same time it can be good where there is the peaceful of actions of religous org's in those too.

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Some though connected to the more lay types not main org or mainstream can give that a bad name as to do with the vigilante and illegal of certain social groups in some cases. Associates the Aries 9th type areas also this particular month.

Just after the basic of the latter was posted see an article mentioning the ABC is airing starting tuesday night (also Mars day) an expose run on that called the *Amish Mafia* no less so a pretty interesting in similar match type in itself there.

Aside that just it's areas tend to be dominated by the influence of the graha's aka planets there.

In vedic grahas in the same sign are just considered as being conjunct period so you can expand your views by looking them up as combinations for the listed sign and area(s)..

3rd areas com, move, read, write, learn, teach, siblings, courage, contracts, borders, neighbors, etc, etc.

While our areas we do interact globally of them from and to wherever those are in other independant countries charts too and to and from those of any global chart such as the solar month's.

Here just covering placements and leave others to make their own interpretations.

Explanations or details for both lunar periods are of Nov's blog with current fm lunar period having started Nov 28th. That and information on the Saturn dasha can be read from that area.

Treating the solar month in timed pairs just as a daily all countries type in the same way and gave just the pairs numbers as usual for it as day c above. No extra image needed.

12/6 Thursday VIII (Wht) c Yin metal Yin Earth Ox Upper Li FS#5 Clean day Under the Northern Blk Tortoise aka Murky or Dark Warrior.

Global Solar Month Feng Shui (FS) for Centers #4 (Shun).

Timed all countries pair #21 - #38 Involves #39 for it and as Dec 6th's daily lunar pair.

Physical: Yel 5th Gwa stars.

Object and changes: Blk 2nd By wood star of Tiger advancings.

News chk probably any number there for matches but that on the Michagan Lockdown was fresh, and on the individual level that on Mr McAfee article and the quote on life he made about sized up the world's status in that, he's extremely intelligent no doubt.

In life's areas most of us are not so intelligent if we study our actions and though as older we do learn we still wonder how dumb some of our actions versus reactions are.

On our month can't really paint the picture as started to in Mars areas until decide on physical which may not be till tuesday or wednesday. Done Monday Dec 10th.

Just blog toss info stuff:

On tosses have always noted how anything going on in the environment at the time affects them and then of one's own status in all departments of health, mental, emotional and psychological states at the time also affect them.

No one gets good results all the time as it's not humanly possible.

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Caught another part of that in cases *where we toss on some action we've taken* for the outcome of it.

Had sent something of an instantaneous service out Nov 17th and were some issues from and of for some reason of a rude acting person at the time. A bystander also noticed it too, but I decided the person must have had an ill day and let it go.

Anyway the next day late the 18th I decided to toss on whether person sending to recieved that sent.

Had got #56 - #33 Involves #28...

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Complicating the answer besides the names *was all that to do with the incident of the previous day showing up in it which made it appear to be a *No* that they didn't recieve it..

Didn't have the other on my mind when asked but yet it surfaced per the stars story in it.

That xtra was just like having noise and other interferences aka disturbances at the physical time of doing a toss which can often invalidate the toss itself.

So those type of results reflecting a problem that came up in accomplishing the task at the time really threw a monkey wrench into it. As far as trying to interpret for the yes or no.

Exactly like having interferences during a toss, extra noise you don't need.

I finally decided that it was a yes answer as was worried but had a K star (no worries) in the changes *plus* was a 6 match in the 1st hexagram itself which does apply for that of recent pasts aka tossed 18th on that sent 17th so agreed for recent pasts stuff.

At first I didn't see that so followed with another toss #35 - #16 which still was marred with incident stuff so other than better names wasn't that helpful and had to go back to the first toss.

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Pointing out that there are lots of factors and considerations to a toss and it's interpretation and had I asked of something else on an entirely different subject the results in star relationship and interactions *would have been much better aka easier to understand*!

So even the question we ask of at a given time if were any personal taints involving with it for us by others prior, then will show up in the stars of toss to give us some really skewed and daffy responses star wise at times.

Some who make statements that the date or time doesn't matter are definately off there as far as 6 coins at least as on a date that clashes you for example again is very likely to get some gibberish, noise aka interference(s) in your results.

There can be some zones that date in it where you'll get a decent answer traceable in the stars but never the whole date and if you aren't a vedic or tropical astrologist you'll likely be flying in the uneducated blind or pure luck there.

You might get lucky in one or two good results then but if you've asked of an area besides you that's being clashed also can get to be very difficult to interpret.

Sort of like playing with multiple mirrored effects at the same time in that.

In 6 coins best to just pass on one's date clashed days or at least realize that interference is likely to show in your results. Don't see where 3 coins would be much different and though I use often too haven't paid enough attention to this issue in them, very likely though.

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Anyway there's a lot of reasons why all tosses are not so easy to interpret especially the yes no types and no one is ever going to fly 100% there.

I can hit a pretty high rate unless a really miserable day and after years now will usually know whether I can trust the results or not on yes and no types. That one was a little iffy to me vis interferences but I accepted it as a yes.

Another of the biggest things especially in yes no types is you have to keep the wording of the question to the shortest concise essence possible.

Means don't include any extra descriptives whether your talking about a particular item or an amount of money.

On money don't say money say the amount instead, and don't include locations with it either, keep it brief like:

Did _____ recieve the (item or exact money amount) I sent (him or her) Nov 17th?

No more, no less as that's everything that's vital you need to know of is in that and doing on the following date the 18th was a good choice but could have done toss on a later date without harm .

More than that in actual question will have the Wwg produce matchings that relate to those and other similar which can skew and confuse rhe results further.

[Insert add Dec 7th [ ]:

Ok had left a bit out:

Notice the question as formed does not say *on 17th* so the date the person themselves gets what was sent is still open. The 17th merely refers to the day sent!

What you call the appointed or key element, vulnerable, etc star in this is a G star.

A visual inspection shows *they are of metal and void* so likely not on 17th unless of correct specific hour satisfying fulfillments but likley after fulfillment and barring problems day on days s or yo. With yo looking bit better.

That's as a usual and likely first opportunity case, but it is not the absolute as other things can involve or happen making that extend.

So it's usually said that wouldn't be picked up until after those empty are fulfilled.

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So the question was formed to allow for an answer *without having to pin down the exact date* they recieved or picked it up.

Those other details I didn't bother working out except for here and only reason I said iffy was due to 2nd hexagram which might have indicated some delay or things left sitting around at one end or the other initially.

However the question type left need of an exact date out and considered it a yes without going into the extra.

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From the above you also can ascertain how that of other people who directly affected you concerning the question plays a role in the type of results you get. If there was a negative influence aka distrubance that impacted you of any sort it can easily skew the results towards that direction.

So you have to look for the minimum that by rules that can answer the question one way or the other and drop all else.

Sort of says how hermits or monks with very calm environments were probably the better persons to consult for extremely accurate readings too.

Minus yes no types most other tosses will still always be fairly applicable at the wider beyond yourself levels.

In those unless your feeling very agitated or ill where it's mainly just to ascertain the gist of an event or events for a given date or frame will be ok.

Today and last few not good zone for me to toss as health in dip zone again so will likely wait as I don't like the extra headache of vague or skewed results.

Dec 7th Day IX (Blk) y Yang water Wood Tiger Upper Zen FS#4 (Shun).

Global timed #32 - #40 Involves #43...

Do consider some dangers and or alarms to the day involving long distances or big stuff and any of the watery too. Applies to homes, biz, jobs and travels as well to material, etc areas themselves, as winds, weathers. groups, sets or to the former of homes, etc. That of the sudden or jolts in some possible too. The date bonds the Rh star in travels and destinations of U.S. toss too.

Ok hadn't read all the news yet and just a bit after posted earlier. As always do so that shown as events in news doesn't cause me to alter what pairs which all have global compnents say to us.

That on jobs was good news and clashes losses per se while revealing the more positive sides of the saturn dasha in that. Date itself having jolts to it went with the unexpected there and some were actually a little alarmed over validity,

Anyway jobs some good news and then as a Red Rh star Object line of the toss in global can cover other things like the 7.3 EQ off NE Japan with a little surprise accompanying and it's also Pearl Harbor remembrance day for us too. Then the ongoing of Egypt and Syria doesn't look to be getting any better yet.

That of Pearl Harbor is not as a contrast just things of this date, and they are a good ally as well so don't take negative, EQ will probably later be downgraded but was felt clear to Tokyo so always a nerves on edge experience for them.

That and a lot more if you look into, still 99.9% plus discounting economics and some of world relationships areas.

Was someone in local here shot 3 times so went with dangers part and didn't look much past that.

Can let serve for the weekend as well with our other pairs at top as any fresh timed of date can easily roll across 3 days itself.

Probably wait till monday or tuesday to do the other signs toss.

Have a good and safe weekend.

12/10 Monday II (Grn e Upper Gen...

One toss yesterday #58 - #10 match several events including storms with P star changes for north's and of prior #43 did in some as physical was bonded then.

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Today's timed #23 - #2 involves #2...

Had right so again corrected hit zones like this at times.

Bump day and use for Dec 11th as: #11 - #46 involves #54.

On today's brings out a lot of the hidden in the social relational at individual and group levels and those of angry or agressive and viscious character in some or as traits of some related or involved area(s).

Not all so hidden in today's and mainly of and in the 3rd type areas including close by for the date and of the physically bold or natured areas or types.

That of Aries like in groups some highly disallusioned and off track types result in being places they shouldn't be in their or leaders misplaced judgements, beliefs or causes. Not referring to Afghan, etc more so *within the U.S. itself* though some other always possible.

Some both of outdoors of woods or mountains areas and in lieu of far type areas in the N's, back or dark sides and areas of things make their romps. Pairs of things relating to Scorpio areas control a lot today and were in for the hidden behind things early am hr cn here.

W's, S's., SE's and N's or backs play strong roles in.

Cameras work just fine here this am *really* not always observing or recording with them though, not a bad idea to keep your own rolling in this zone.

In the more positive Snake dates are good for any of diplomacy's wide areas if you can decide where it is that positive lays in and the best appropriate date related action to take or apply in it.

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Today's pair has that more at the Dangers, etc of:

The Object (U) line at inner relational levals in global anywhere's including travels and destination vis:

Red and in colors is mars like heated or fiery, souths or southerly and front areas or the front of things, wealths and sometimes enthusiasms, laughters, etc a few in influences too:

2nd Local(s) and that close by or soon in time areas of which

Things of strong Re fire star of Snake areas and actions in any R star type of area for this date occur.

Snake element (e).same as the date and other of it in the pair you can check along with month's or other pairs..

Corrected the U.S. physical to a Leo type physical similar to the solar month's too for our U.S. month.

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Is a *high ends degrees type* physical for finishing things of it's areas up or in general of the charts 4th, 2nd, 11th and 12th areas up in as well. Meaning things of those will all be reflected back and into this month's Leo physical in and of interactions for it!

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Unfortunately will see a number of undesired type ends aside the desired types in this month also, *so try to be careful especially if your a Leo or of it's areas*.

That of your own mal or bad actions in it can generate that also bad in the karmic and future results for you too.

U.S. month has Moon in Virgo 2nd Material, etc areas with Mercury the Ruler.

Check well above here where U.S. Month temp and derived type was corrected for additional info's.

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[The transiting Moon is currently in the Libra social, etc 3rd areas for both it and our global's solar month charts today!

*The Moon rules the 12th type areas which amongst other also cover things which are a result of enemy actions and that of hard work or sacrifice as well*].

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In notes: That of our derived U.S. month chart applies in any U.S. area and geographical local(s) location connected to the U.S. in any type of relationship, obviosuly strongest within U.S. Local(s) themselves.

If your not sure what a numbered area such as 4th or *5th* is, look it up suggested.

That in search as either a bhava type in vedic or as a house type in tropical for the items and item areas pertaining to them as are important and where you'll be seeing actions take place as well as to any they connect.

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Ok again updated our U.S. month itself which is in the start of things at the top here, and think we have a pretty accurate picture you can frame most events of the month and the lunar pairs to now.

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Tomorrow's Dec 11th's pair mentioned here already and both the Moon and Venus move into the Scorpio 4th areas for near a stellium there with the Sun, Mercury and Rahu already there well so will leave this as is a day or so then it's the new moon in same that's coming up for a new lunar period then too!

Also Dec 11th posted the new moon global lunar pair at top:

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Dispersions involve Nuturances which leads to Claim(s) and or Conflict(s).

Some definitely is to do with foods areas too saw a bit when out today, but probably not much compared to some other more pressing areas.

We've had this pair before so doubt any description needed by most and easy to see some could have some harsh results in it.

Especially considering our Saturn dasa period it and all else falls under and that it's toss indicates.

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Starts Thursday Dec 13th here with the new moon itself in scorpio areas then.

No astro chart as like the previous fm pair it fits within our current solar and U.S. month types both of Leo type physical's and global also for this period.

Things were definitely matching of today's pair though most probably saw it easier in the fm and toss pairs.

Today had a lot to do with obstructings of various types as part of the Bc stars and Bcn star of today's pair.

In hr wa when one type opened up then was a successful launch and in the minus a natural gas explosion with that gaseous and fiery common between them.

Then tonight certain areas of the net too were obstructed which could not clear until hour h.

If you studied today's pair you'd get it.

Was rough for me twice went to PO to make a payment and those obstructions involving masses of too many in line so had to detour.

Lucky one px cashier caught I'd left a purchase laying at counter or would have left without was pretty worn at the time.

Rare in my case to have really full good days it's more like good hours in some days and most often when so try to stay on a continuous roll here or in my studies!

Gemini 11th the muntha and also social rewards areas:

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In other was some good of those Gemini 11th *social rewards areas* as one local station in a viewers event giving a ipad mini away free. Likely lots come up of various in those areas com, move, learn, etc as rewards. Think another had something of learning areas prior too.

See Rahu in effects as well and a wide vareity with all that in Scorpio now. In other direction some positive advancements could be made there of those too though has some ends natures to it in some.

Then you heard one govt official saying were broke and that's the Ketu effect of making things disappear where it's at with Jupiter rx areas stuff in the Outer event Taurus 10th areas.

One main good thing of new moon is not in final end degrees close but yet in the finish things up zone.

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So quite a large number of things and events of specific areas to observe now until month c.

12/12 Wednesday IV (Red) wa Upper Duay.

Have #49 - #43 Involves #44 today and so as not to distract attentions from the prime lunar and toss stars will when list pairs of a date do later in the date like this rather than ahead.

Yesterday's::

See an ABC (TM) article on yahoo caught that of an Oregon mall shooting spree with a food mart in it mentioned.

Likely the entire of a mall can be considered a place of nurturance(s) as so many things people need can be found in them.

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Likely any store small ones too or any that sells products and any which supply services can be considered a nuturance area.

Wwg general directions:

[Generally on the month's lunar pairs and toss you can always consider the colors of the *physical* and object lines can and often do fit prominently into any day of it's period as it's directions aka sectors too.

That's not mentioned in any publishings but here I will and that's by sound logic itself as all separate items within any hexagram pair also fall under it's the physical itself!

Then you add in *that of the date's applicable lines to those or as separate themselves for each date and/or hour shift itself!].

In Germany something of bomb materials or a terrorist bomb had been found too.

Always get weird spurious calls here at home but with base in kitchen I rarely understand what's being said of the brief don't leave an actual message types. Often totally wrong number types and in any that can't leave an actual message dismiss as unimportant. Consider the phone my wife's machine as I rarely ever use.

Mainly the volume is of a variable nature and often quite low, but in one that left a message sounded like the woman was in a work environment and gave my wife and I a laugh as knew they had wrong number.

The woman was distraught with someone had activities of a work background of some type and simply had said *I can't work with you anymore!* then click!

We laughed as we were clueless as to whom she was referring to or what that was all about??

Surmised she had the explosive in her day too about it.

Were some sort of small electrical distrubance(s) go on as well found one microwave reciever had jumped channels overnight which is a bit rare??

Weathers:

[Haven't kept up with weather local a bit as being more thorough in adding descriptions of the astrological types also for deeper insights takes nearly all my time.

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Can in the reflective and forward though say since the Moon and more importantly Venus moved into Scorpio that that of watery things including rains and other is definitely in by timings now for the Solar and U.S. month's,

Check further below was something and had strong matches and then for here also agrees with the mentioned of Venus areas too].

In next Solar and U.S. month can probably take it briefer as in just the applicable physical 1st signs and the main two ruleing graha's for them.

Initially had to go wider to establish their overall validity and that their aspects being global natured would apply in many other country's areas for events as well.

Had a bit of fun with the Wwg and Iching (Yi-jing) portions as the toss on physical's which did earlier than planned per need here and on day cn.

Came out as #16 - #62 the first a 6 Match and those names are very suggestive also.

Here's why: Remember had said that Kala had it (Leo) as a very late in the finishing up's aka completeings of things degrees areas??

That was just shy of hitting the final ends degree of Leo and though in vedic we treat it as the whole sign it's actually that of Leo with a greater bulk of the physical in Virgo itself.

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That matches with the hexagram names perfectly!

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So Leo it is and then of the Vedic rules we now also properly catch the 12th bhava areas with pasts, sacrifices etc effects too into the physical which is associated with *the Leo sign* then also the actual material side of Virgo type areas shows in the physical prominently and currently too as vedic rules place it in 2nd bhava material, etc areas.

So that of keeping what's on the cusp's as the signs for entire bhava's stems of the vedic systems and as you can see is very, very illustrative and in step with the actual resulting facts we see in events themselves which is what counts here.

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That puts Saturn in Libra 3rd areas where the Saturn dasha applies and at start Venus had been there for the main overall influence to those areas too.

Lots of difficulties have been of Venus $ areas here and global in Taurus 10th or Outer events areas also.

The 3rd areas take in contracts and agreements in general another area of tremendous difficulties of and in govt areas too in many, many respects that match up to the Saturn char and dasha effects in Libra 3rd areas.

Definitely in the agreements far and wide also as Saturn there rules our Capricorn 6th and Aquarius *7th* type areas.

The exact actions and event types we will be seeing now that focus back into those month ruling original Libra 3rd areas conditions are now are of Scorpio's areas since Venus entered the Scorpio 4th areas yesterday!

From that of the Leo physical and with a lot in Scorpio areas now those too get pulled into the Libra 3rd areas *by Venus* (Rules Libra and the Chart ruler). eThat in turn gives you a very refined view for that ahead of those Libra 3rd type areas which also affect our 7th areas in relationships as well.

That also means there are some types of ends and begins too of the Scorpio 4th type areas, in the ill of the more Rahu like some are in dangers as in shootings, vandalism(s), etc you see in that close to home areas and in that of the larger environments areas to which a or homes belong.

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That of the fiery or *fires* too still can play strong roles in woods or homes, etc areas too and for the duration of the Solar and our U.S. month's. There you can have vandalisms involving those younger or of destructive temdancies in general. Also of long distance or Arian or mil like org components as well since we have an Aries 9th in both our Solar and U.S. month's.

Where those occur as fires or acts of violence those too reflect the spontaneous of Rahu type moments of it with all the rest in Scorpio areas now, but for some doing it's more out of their own Rahu obssessed and disturbed areas of thinkings and feelings on certain things that inclines them to take the improper and illegal actions in the first place.

That as Mars in and of Sag 5th areas also rules or co rules the Scorpio 4th areas too. Good for political in timing to take actions in those while not all good and some also destructive of other 5th areas items or type affecting the 4th areas.

Likely some types of govt programs meet for ends and or new begins as well, or in the better some of that is averted by new tax areas and changes there. Even in latter some types of ends would probably still occur.

Just knowing the themes and trends of things now is enough and don't try to get into specifics as those will soon show as results from decisions our govt makes anyway.

It's a pretty agitating or frustrating point of time to be in and seriously affects and impacts the public in many areas

Want to mention again some of those of Leo births should be a little more cautious in any sort of disputes or the arguementive in areas and definitely in their daily routines that involve any type of travels, etc. That's probably more so of Govt type Leo areas then individuals.

Then in enemies and other that of Capricorn aka the body, Pisces, Cancer type areas.

Then purely rasi relational for the Leo rasi areas of any chart are always that of the Capricorn, Aries, and Libra rasi's areas that apply.

[As said next time on the month type of astro will be much briefer and mainly their physical's and luminaries plus the two main rulers for those charts which includes whichever rasi is the actual muntha for that particular month will be given.

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This time was very in depth to show validity or accuracy and mainly serves as guidance type for what all areas you should or can check out for yourselves in the future ones here.

[Do not assume that of any sign or element that reference is made to any individual in particular, they aren't and can guarentee I have no one in mind other than what and what ever a subject being covered is about]!

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Did get one very pleasent surprise in reviews today as I do and often forget in all I do here that had tossed and mentioned of rains or storms up north stuff.

Done day cn also and had listed here as #58 - #10. Yes was listed in the very first of Monday's post reflecting the storms up north in the far away for sunday and monday frames then.

Well was the Blk 6th's *Pwa changes earth star advance* of it which included today* IV (Red) wa the Goat aka Sheep. Advances to a Psh earth star of Dog which as an advanced bounds to bond Red S's 2nd Local(s) Gm star areas today.

Had used 3 coins toss method for that in particular then.

*It definitely rained here today and water was cold*.

The toss question was simply "Will it rain here today?".

Answer for here and that day was no as had a 6 Strike, etc but I reflected for the far aways N's it could, then today when the advance of the Pwa star was made in it rained here vis the bond to local as had asked of our local (here).

Odd stuff:

[Had noticed now of several different electrical appliances several small glitch areas to them and finally realized with yesterday and today being of fire heavens stems that of Mars co ruling the diverse and overcrowded of other grahas in Scorpio 4th areas and Aries 9th that we could expect a very wide range of spurious effects also to go with that.

Since last two dates were Red stemmed the 1st line areas in daily and other Red line areas in the toss and month's pairs with their date interactions would in the combined of that and Mars indeed give us some very odd or small electrical affects along with all the more normal of stuff too.

That's aside any caused by other atmospherics or the purely disruptive types doing things in some's areas as well].

12/13 Thursday V (Yel) s Upper *Shun* New Moon Scorpio and period...

Timed pair for this new moon date and lunar period of course at the top.

This goes with the Odd stuff mainly.

Event(s) occured this date well ahead of the new moon exact itself a totally different chart physical, but most placements within it are exactly the same.

Did get couple more ahead of new moon exact as *glitch destructives types* so looked at the timing and found that had mentioned yesterday vis Mars and the Scorpio areas.

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All that in Scorpio opposes that of Jupiter rx and Ketu in Taurus areas part of the issue.

Exactly what gets in small jilted or zapped depends on the time of day and where the rasis's are in bhava aka house wise on the wheel there at the time.

[Some came up when the overheads had Virgo in the physical and Mercury the physical's ruler is in Scorpio's areas it's ruler and in turn then Mars rules those Scorpio areas also.

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That all of Scorpio's areas was and is opposing Jupiter rx and Ketu which was in Taurus 9th material areas at that time and of long distance areas of it at that particular time.

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It's Maha Dasha for main events was Mercury and at the time for lower 4th and 5th levels down to the date itself were Ketu/Ketu. *Stuff disappears*].

Some online areas may need to stay on top of their security areas in various too.

During a windows update then which initially failed clobbering taking out a large block of cached memory with it occured.

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That's the Ketu stuff at work with Jupiter rx time synced there.

Those types if repeat often can literally eat a machine's OS so to speak but had never seen it occur before on windows 7 machine until now.

It was a function of timing which for most things ok, but when memory is actually removed like this can become a major physical problem.

So is pretty alarming stuff.

So have to check for registry errors which according to them *97% of all pc's have*.

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Kind of irritating that they don't automatically fix or alert you to those for a special maintenance scan, etc.

Did a full system av scan and all ok there and the always of intrusion attempts being blocked, etc also.

Amazing how may hackers and people with nothing but that to do are out there.

May get lucky as being a function of timing in cause may not be any physical problem to it at all now.

Have to make checks irregardless as don't want to see the OS get ate over registry errors. When you use products that protect files and other products think those can crop up more easily.

Definitely have to start doing a lot more as far as registry checks go.

Having a Virgo physical at that moment takes in Microsoft (TM) and the Govt as well in things then too though I doubt it as was anything intentional though Ketu does add the possibility of such.

Was indeed a serious type of error to pop up no doubt but totally a function of timing itself too as I showed in the above.

Likely just for fun will later at some point add the Wwg timed and toss in concerning the event too, but as is you can see how was timing related.

[There will be a lot of erasticity in things and events that involve the hidden or that which can disappear vis various types of destructive mechanisms now.

Those are going to be in and going on in this whole lunar period and it's good for you to know about
ahead.

Not all are super but software types and other electrical devices types are definitely some of those at the minimum.

That's been and still is in the U.S. year too and since most understand that Jupiter is also *Big Stuff* then review the material effects that the middles region drought has and is causing, then other of storms as well. Ketu there with it a lot in and of the material is lost and of losses from those effects.

So it's definitely a hard one for us and have to understand it as that, in which near mid 2013 when shifts out.

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[A lot of those areas start becoming rid of their lossy components and can start a recovery of some type *near the very end of this month* onwards!

In specific Ketu makes the shift on Dec 22nd this month!

That as at that time Ketu exits Taurus and enters Aries itself. Then it's detached from Jupiter's areas in the main for quite a long, long time.

To start forward of Jupiter's areas it comes out of retrograde sometime between Jan 29th and the 30th 2013 then, and soon thereafter by Feb 2nd 2013 (2/2/2013) expansions in the forward can begin taking place.

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So as far as Jup's areas 2013 is a better year for some or most all and global too of Jup's expansions in some to many areas then].

Insert [ Dec 14 ]

[An additional zones update:

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From Dec 20 - 26:

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Expect in that zone some types of jolts or just changes involving the Pisces 8th type areas.

Those will also involve the material and Jup stuff which connects to the Mars in 5th type areas and involves the physical itself then as well and obviously a lot goes with the christmas and holiday areas too.

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Can only advise or suggest here and rest is all up to you to apply safety in what you do, but do suggest being very careful of in any types of travels areas through 01/31/2013...

Blog notes;

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Spent time with the Prasna and finally was at the level needed to properly absorb and apply it's areas to questions of various types.

From the excellent class on and some of other additional vedic areas relative was able to write down a strictly logical procedure of steps to follow from begin to end for obtaining solutions.

Currently can cover a very wide variety of Y/N types plus when recieve ones, etc and adding to that as I go along now.

In those it's just as accurate as the Wwg now plus can directly get certain types of details that cannot in the Wwg.

That is as the relationship areas themselves work a little differently between the two systems one being a timed of the moment and the other being a more faith like toss of the moment.

End result is now I can get a lot more additionally accurate info and detail concerning a given question in it's answer than could in the past.

Was already of recent doing quite well in that vis the Wwg so this simply expands the amount of
applicable information I can get of and at the toss time.

In areas such as the finding of lost articles or persons, may be a just some delay there yet, not sure how strongly structured or reliable that is yet, may require adjustments but probably will accomplish that yet in the future too.

Mainly has to do with selection of the proper arudha there and expect the Wwg will enable me
to write a full listing of which to use for what purpose.

So takes some time in that but should be able to accomplish in near future.

Can be some other slight and small details of ayanamsha types used or if tropical rasi's should be used in that and of some settings in particular cases but nothing that can't be handled.

All is tine consuming and having the time to do it sometimes the real problem.

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Think most probably starting to see once you move past some of the ancient times mumbo jumbo that there are a lot of good and highly beneficial applications that we can apply the vedic astrology methods to and for].

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Ok didn't try to follow much on new lunar month start but I did see about the highest power match in the ultimate sense that goes with that pair.

Do believe the better of names for the second hexagram is that of *Claim(s)*.

Are three universities that will be working cooperatively on a project of joint and beyond interest.

They have actually agreed upon a particular lattice type structure that can be generated to form what can be a working simulation of the *Universe itself*.

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There's actually a very serious assertion that we actually all live in a computer simulation.

Was an article piped into Yahoo about it you can check out for the full details and had some links with it too.

Anyway if ever a Claim was made, *that would be the largest one of all*.

Have to take a break on that one would zap a lot of the purpose to life in that.

12/14 Friday VI (Gry) yo Upper Kan...

Timed #39 - #15 Involves #64...

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*Very sorry to hear of the huge disaster aka calamity at a Connecticut school and the losses of many precious lives in the shootings there today*!

It's a repeat of travels toss areas and directions of affected lines correct and *also are in nm pair itself* on the ends line for that clashed and bonded too.

That of the Travels toss posted Nov 28th but at top page here too was designated for the full quarter under our current U.S. Saturn dasha and remains in effect until January 31st 2013.

The fiery of affected Moon's areas also as was in:

Moon was in Sag today where Mars and destuctives in 5th Children's areas can occur and of which Jupiter rx with Ketu in Outer 10th public event areas influences for the large and into our Leo physical too.

The unfortunate events began in hr e this morning and the hora hour was of Mars then.

A very unfortunate *Ends* type of the Scorpio 4th areas as the Sun in those areas also influences events themselves *in the physical itself too*.

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That of Leo areas always includes children or the younger too plus under the Saturn dasha which is in Libra *3rd* areas this month includes places of learnings, schools and teachers too where main and hard experiences to be expected.

Can also include tomorrow as it did before for same line areas on day sh as well so be alert as can include any types of journeys short or far, plus an emphasis is on that close to your home and your home bases of operations too including your work areas too!

Our deepest condolences to those in grief suffering of the losses of life in Connecticut.

Try to have a good and *safe* weekend.

12/17 Monday IX (Blk) t Yang Ren Water Rat Upper Chen FS#4 (Shun) Produce day Under the Western Wht Tiger.

Date same as the Month...Timed #10 - #25 Involves #37..

Moon enters Aquarius and Mars in Sag is in the final end degree there today. Mars enters Capricorn areas morning the 18th...

Didn't monitor or look for rain though appeared there were signs of such were approaching here back from day sh.

Not of a 3 coins toss and for others studies on 6 coin possibles too.

12/15 #27 - #23 pm Involves westerly's and linking to far aka rulers line.

12/16 #17 - #45 am Involves westerly's linking to skies line.

#23 also applies any time you spend money on something which includes as routine as purchases, etc.

Both had the Wht 1st line as Pt water of Rat changes star type and since were two different dates of that then maybe ok for a 6 coins type?

Westerly refers to all 3 west type directions.

Noting them as normally only three coins are supposed to be used *but today is day t* of those P stars and the rain pretty soaking type came up.

Any toss does show other items besides for the questioned so this may be just like it was for day wa of the 3 coins Pwa star changes then.

Was more definite in that case as was 3 coins and had asked of rain itself.

Then also this date had to send some things out so another part to it there.

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[All in all consider since of two different questions the Pt star changes consistent in both did indeed indicate that of rain happenings here for Monday day t Rat].

12/18 Mars day X Gui (Blk) c aka Black yin water Earth Ox day Upper Duay FS#2 (Quen) Clean day Under the Western Wht Tiger.

The date under the Solar month of the IX Ren (Blk) t aka Black yang water yang Rat Upper
Shun FS#4 (Shun) areas activities.

Good day for Application, Concentration and Dealing with demanding tasks or adventures as such date level doesn't include hour specifics!

That of the wests and lakes, seas of water and metal plus joyful or pleasings influences in areas of the masses, medicines, motherings or nuturances.

Some also to do with masses or the loud in protests, political, thefts, muggings, murders or robberies possible, etc.

Ok up beated that a bit from the Wwg perspective.

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[Moon just past mid aquarius of 7th areas for us and only main planetary aspect of day is it's square for dynamics and tensional to Mercury's areas within Scorpio's 4th type areas for us.

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Other aspects for Moon in Aquarius would be in the Libra, Aries, and Capricorn areas contributing and affected]!

Started ahead in hr t like that as well.

The illogical of the herds instincts in masses afflicted by the moon gets over on youths and man so many times showing he's still not too awfully bright.

In a lot he still *reacts* under their influences rather than independantly thinking and staying *in proper, prudent and intelligent control of himself*.

This in modern times yet has to make one wonder???

Try not to follow ringleaders of negative inspirations and acts.

He thinking he is smart denies the influences of the stars and heavens and yet strongly acts out under their influences daily, quite an enigma he is in the whole of creation.

Well here at least we try to point out so that some of the minus can be averted but it usually takes a couple of strong or huge incidents before some get the idea that the info's provided are very correct for safeties purposes.

That concerning schools as well as all things under travels and the Saturn dasha with pairs here in the ahead has been as should totally correct!

Today's of Mar's activates our 4th Scorpio and 9th Arian areas it itself in our Capricorn 6th areas of healths, safeties, maintenances, daily routines, and enemies etc now brings them into the former too now.

Both the pro and con yang and yin natured of Mars type stuff.

Today of dashas that too of Venus, Sun and Moon type areas all are where influences and main areas involve of those other in the date as well.

The latter of the astro diversifies and shows where and what for us in comparison to the Wwg's condensed and global for the date which sums date type up.

Left out timed Wwg to avert confusings so just apply the element date to the main charts at top,

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Skipping news here myself this round noted was some rough in Colorado but in other wow was one beautiful picture of *Saturn vis NASA* in Yahoo news areas today.

For tomorrow Day y and starting hr t tonight on:

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Expect that of *dangers* or just threats of very troubled Ryo star type attributes and areas which is *Gry* and of the date's main changes areas in for gateways and chief administers areas.

Not all is dangers and some is actually of troubled areas or types and not required that any of such be of that as a birth element more so some of the attributes or character of the yo element itself can apply to any other birth element also.

In that some can be the usual of techy or the unusual, scary or odd, etc and can apply in things pertaining to the other mentioned in many less serious forms of any R star area item and such as in emails too as those too are another form of gateway.

So lots of possibles and within Kan areas where the Ryo changes star lays and associated with Li type for fiery, fiery org's, illuninations, etc can be things of family to things of abyss to things of darkness or waters. etc. That of nuturence areas in some cases also.

Referred to as dangers just to be brief in main which in some places will definitely have and because of our Saturn dasha however in global are some to do with dangers of gateways and the internet is one of many. On net the positive can involve purchases of techy stuff while some can have to do with dangers as well. Any entrance doorway or other such as stops at an intersection and more all serves as gateways.

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A lot may also stem or come from Red 2nd Local(s) or that near any in By wood star of Tiger areas of the Inner relational B star type to include robberies as well.

Some can be of winds or weathers in some global locations but a lot due to the material of Wht 5th Gwa star type areas that can take in com and travels and other in begins, surfaces and underneaths then.

Also on directions and add that I made on those for directions and color stuff you can consider of a dates any specific refers in two ways in one as being of that direction and in the other as in going to that direction with the end result of happenings involving the direction the color suggests.

Moon still in Aquarius for this which Saturn rules and since the 17th the 4th level or sooksma that sets things up that the date dasha plays out in has been Ketu of our Taurus 10th areas and is so through the 21st then for this of Wednesday things of Mars in our Capricorn 6th and of Rahu in our Scorpio 4th are the main players.

Adding in hr s this afternoon the Moon enters Pisces 8th areas with Jupiter rx in Taurus 10th Outer events areas ruling plus any of Ketu's effects with it, and the Sag 5th areas too where Sun resides and very reflected in the news, but *hopefully* all stays peaceful. Ours within the other of Wwg global.

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Very surprising for Global almost like some intentionally left out!

It was definitely all about dangers in discussions of every type no doubt and even threat like to a few officials but news didn't cover much except past based on most.

More of a suprises than actual dangers type *very very rare and not something to be counted on in the day by day at all*!

More so was of the bond the Ryo star made to Gcn star type areas itself it's main result would nearly say that ran a lot with nobility in certain views or values.

Not sure as although mankind is vain enough to think of itself in those terms at times it's usually of and in the moment these days that's achieved probably some merit more so than normal of that view in this case. That of some mental like officials bonding to women or the grandiose in the material or that of nobility was noteable in that too.

Was a death involving a child and *a school related area again* very early am in U.S. and then overseas some were noted in Pakistan think regarding attacks against Vaccine workers.

Was some of weathers stuff for middles U.S. and in certain european areas too a toss that goes with all of this is #3 - #17 Involves #23...Good for several days.

Consider it applicable for at least 10 days due to the voids and this period and both that of the pro's and con's you see or note as come up.

The toss too applied in the very near by as well but then of the very far aways too and is some serious Fog's stuff at some major euro airports too then has a beginnings or sproutings name as well.

On areas one checks first their immediate locale first that includes you that read a posted toss too in examining it you check your immediate locale especially if you have safety issues first and then you can expand up to the global usually best.

In this case that of the nuclear hexagram or strippings can at later point apply fairly strong, and then in terms of today's news you know one of the main public areas, but it extends beyond that into many other types at personal levels.

Such as some who may be ill with you for any percieved reason and want to either conform to them or something they think important as occurs within relationships too, so many kinds of strippings.

Then it includes the J and U lines saying it's pretty instrumental in some events and as the changes line also within it strengthens the nature of it. Here you can see it applies to Red 2nd local(s) Ky star areas so that close by or of any local and K star areas in main the subject areas involved. So just from a glance any can sum quite a bit up before or without any detailed analysis..

Then as mentioned other day usually only very high magnitude or very key to the question as far as star elements matching some's actual birth signs.

Those count but only if your very experienced in the Wwg could you determine that so don't assume that a star element represents any particular person's birth sign.

In that it's mainly just the char and attributes of the element that defines how and in what the star type applies.

Voids change to t, c...So for the oddest of reasons usually those of those elements get somewhat either jilted or shunned by others when in the void, when their energy sub normal and diffused in an overly yin or dark way is strange stuff but those of them *are at no fault* just cyclically happens.

So when happens just know any who jilt you get theirs later too. *Almost a basis in itself for the original golden rule*.

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Re read what had listed in first part of astro for today and in terms of material values it was very correct in today's public themes areas at the tops, so was just my thinking that there had to be acts of violence or the volatile in the day.Did see a Volcanoe in euro news though.

It's such a general given that I usually don't go into any indepth look at each separate instance of an R star which hung me up some here today.

Ok backing up were a number of dangerous events for the U.S. hr wa almost hr s onwards today just didn't get reported till later. Was ahead on midwest some late tonight and tomorrow on for storms there. Was a dust storm huge in Tx one person killed today. Was in NW agreeing Wht of today's toss and R star there too for dangers of a snowstorm in rockies near or in Denver, etc. Local also had a shooting or fatality I think.

Really had me going as though dislike the unfortunate it's just so rare there's not something kind of big.

Ok again on toss you can use my location as a reference but not 100% neccessary as uses colors of the date so even you don't know what I asked you should be able to match the line color and it's star type to various directions yourself too!

Once know what all the press fatalities about unless it's very logical like war areas may toss on that too!

12/20 Thursday II Yi (Grn) m aka Yin Wood Rabbit Upper Zen FS#9 (Li) Share day Under the Southern Red Phoenix.

Global timed #32 - #28 Involves #43 catches a lot of the weather stuff also so post today.

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*R metal star dangers of Wht 5th areas in changes* do clash the By wood hider star of and under the Red 2nd Local(s) Ph star areas. So winds amongst other (robbers or any B star area) certainly in at times today!

On local no toss needed as one to do with rain or wet stuff itself still active and had said from day sh of it's advanced P star on skies areas was setting things up, so today bonds that meaning somewhere around here gets some drops or a bit of the wet stuff too.

Have no time to ferret details so it's fiery or just a few drops in the extremes. That as fire bond formed for R star events themselves so hard to say which in the quick other than may be some dangers to it!

Take that up norths then very definite on the wet and white types stuff of it!

Ok in hr s did turn into some definite rain here as well.

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May not add much today as spending more of my time in the bed than out of it so far this one aka an ill or malaise day for me thus far.

Escape Chicago:

Started looking into and it's another *solid match* to this U.S. month in the frame of the Saturn Dasha without a doubt!

Remembering Saturn in Libra 3rd areas those of the case relative wide environments and specifically close to the home types for a specified area, etc.

Anyway at time they were taking the Cab for the get go 02:45 am the 18th in Chicago the overhead there had Libra rising for it's physical 1st areas then. So was a slot in time and space geographically to contribute *to U.S. month events of the Saturn in Libra 3rd types* then!

Altered wording a bit on the above as sounded incorrectly a little too personal of the area.

Double checked U.S. dasha's for that time as was pulling some from 17th as well and was of Ke/Ve aka Ketu and Venus for all the most main events then.

Ketu in minus side: Things that disappear, get lost, accidents and obviously escapes as well fit. Venus material and material wants also rules the Libra areas plus those of Taurus U.S. 10th Outer events then.

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The Hora aka hour was that of Jupiter which plays strongly and prominently in all it's themes and areas for that event also.

Jup rx plus Ketu were and are in our Taurus 10th outer events areas with Jup ruling the Pisces 8th dangers, etc areas and the Sag 5th areas as well.

Jupiter besides that of long distances represents that tall or huge and also big $, enterprises and religions, etc too.

Double stroke occurred on day c and cab part near the end of hr c also.

Think it's actual chart on the escape with the Libra physical had *Rahu* a main player as well for the obsessed and crazed in things amongst other.

Mars was in the final end degree that date and currently in our Capricorn 6th which covers the body, enemies and diseases amongst other of sustenance, healths, safeties, welfare, daily routines, repairs, maintenance(s), etc.

Capricorn in the hard and steely also traditionally takes in prisons too.

In our month Mars had been in Sag 5th type areas which also takes in the yin and yang of *Freedoms* so a U.S. month type event in that.

When have time or feeling bit better will dig into using both Wwg and the Vedic astro and most interesting is the timed pair for hr c then given below is *the reciprocal* of my toss in yesterday's.

Tuesday day c hr c timed:

#17 - #3 Followings or Abide leads to Sproutings, Beginnings or Fog which involves things which spread or reach across wide surfaces or distances and that of Gradual Developments.

12/21 Friday Venus Upper Shun FS#8 (Gen) Settle day Under the Southern Red Phoenix.

Timed #59 - #29 Involves #27...

Prior to news check had did a 3 coins toss on the 2 prisoners then went to check news before eval as you can see from the names.

So question as stated doesn't fully apply and halted as will take me awhile to see what if any might be. Still results useful in all normal senses of the date for other areas.

#12 - #62 Involves #53....In brief Stop (Halt) Standstill turns into Little much.

Q was Where are the two chicago breakout prisoners now?

So remaining other likely still stuck there too.

Toss should apply to a lot other also and cover weekend in minimum.

Water element troubled as buried by date.

Wood element troubled as weak by date.

Bare minimum listed for all 3 of the 6th, 5th and 3rd line are change lines in this:

Physical:

Gry Sudden, surprises, the odd, mental, volatile, etc too 3rd *Gm wood of Rabbit star* areas in changes and meets Bs metal of Monkey star of focused traits and then in some separate link with 5th type areas.

Object:

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Grn E or large 6th Ends, completions, tops, skies, far or across aways, achievements *Psh star type* so any P star areas there includes those storms in and for travels, areas of agreements, contracts, leaderships, documents, transports etc *clashed by Date*.

Clash alters as by itself means staying status quo or a repitition of the same or similar events involves but in clashed some there are not good or they are *in some just emphasized for or for actions this date*.

Some appointments, schedules get altered as one area of those in example and having to do with transports, travels, leaderships or any P star area.

Blk N's, backs, watery, clandestine, abyss 5th rulers, roads, far, high, etc in *Bs metal star of Monkey* of focused traits and any B star areas.

Health and environments areas for some, but any of groups and other B star areas apply.

Same but minus clash.

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In today's stuff toss also goes with the snowstorms, *the Voyuz space capsule docking to the International Space Station today an orbiting laboratory and 3 astronauts enterd space station for a stay there said about a 3 hour pressurization wait (standstill) before hatches opened between them. also Steve Jobs Yacht overeasa vis finances, etc and many other and some very dangerous or deadly things too.

That of the Govt getting no where fits too but may be jolts yet coming for them as Uppers of the pair were of Chen's raw and material power areas involving those of Zen.

Constructed charts for that of it's launch and then it's arrival at the space station today.

The Cab time astro not a Prasna (Is an event of location chart) but was interesting that of Saturn in the physical indicated their nature and what they faced that being basically troubles, obstructing(s) and the law in minimum.

It's physical Libra being of this U.S. Month's 3rd areas indicated that of short journeys involved.

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Neater was tried applying Prasna rules to it and the first areas all I got done but were accurate for what went with the Chicago event chart time.

In one method of several used for what was on the mind of a person(s) taking actions that date and time ended up with Venus in one part and then one counts the *NUMBER* of bhavas away from it to the bhava the Moon is in.

I Got (NUMBER) 4 so says that one applies 4th bhava aka house meanings and those will reflect what the persons aka individuals were thinking at the time for what is a timed type aka event chart in this case!

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[So the 4th is Mother, family and home areas!

The initial location they went to was indeed one of their Mother's home's]!

That was based of timed when they got into Cab!

That of the thought is just refers to what the likely of areas and themes influencing would be on the persons mind for taking related actions in at the time.

[That varies with every chart it's placements, strengths and the particular date and time so not a fixed thing and was for that given chart.

At another time or location would have been another graha instead of Venus you'd do a count from to it's moon placement instead and that would of course result in entirely different likely areas of actions altogether!

In that it just gets what is the most main of likely areas for actions to be taken in and not every little sub detail, but does a good job as such.

That being just *one of several used* for that purpose and the easiest one for me to describe here].

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Didn't go past the first part of a Prasna which deals with the *nature of the query* aka question and person's involved.

Are 10 - 20 different questions in the first prasna areas that get answered in that and almost all are to do with decribeing those and what involved plus the likely actions that will be taken vis the influences of the time.

In other had referred to them as middle aged men too, also accurate.

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Bottom line it was accurate!
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A timed event type but not a true prasna type which is harder as must be either first time you strongly thought of and understood the question in the wanting to know part or when somebody else brings the question to you.

Any other time may not work so well and definitely can be quite a time consuming process, however from what I got off the event time alone tells you properly applied the Prasna will work extremely accurate for question areas asked!.

Have in past successfully did a few prasna's like; "When will I recieve" type questions with it and now after finishing a lot of Wwg areas up returned to using it.

A lot which was unclear to me before has been resolved. Mostly vis the advanced Wwg and from doing some basic astro here in recents with additional review of course areas enabled me to better translate some of the strange wordings and languge descriptions they used to what is actually meant in modern terms was the key.

Most important here and to me is by using vedic astro I'm slowly picking up some hidden details or factors that further improve my Wwg methods in answers too.

Had planned to use time of toss for a full prasna also but obviously can take a break there now :).

12/22 Saturday IV (Red) e

Just blog had phone unit minus base in room other day and looking at ID a call
came in that being important I picked up on which is rare.

Anyway the caller referred to someone important I'm pretty aquainted with and didn't
pick up on the fact something might be wrong with them until hours later.

Did do a toss appeared something very minus for person that was being referred too had indeed occured and just hope the individual is allright or comes out of all ok.

It also was a partial reciprocal of the toss posted here and listed below which really got my attention.

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That of Stop, Halt, Standstill, Stagnate or Fall down and it's hexagram is really in
Strong now!

Yesterday's posted toss had too many changes matching for tons of other things so couldn't use and a mistake to try.

Double mistake was an incorrectl question since had assumed both prisoners were still loose so the question wasn't even applicable and the Wwg gave me the typical I always enquire of here, aka main events period.

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Should have did several tosses first for good pre-clear purposes which would have netted a more refined and directed toss to the Where stuff. That and read news first for the proper question for sure.

So only the original timed pair plus the bit of yesterday's astro at this point correct for reference on that Chicago breakout stuff:

Timed Chicago prisoners escape via cab:

Occured day X (Blk) c in hour c.

Taking Cab said between 02:30 - *02:45* am near tail end of hr c.

Weak and troubled metal and water elements then.

That of Followings (groups, masses) which involves that of gradual developments
which leads to Sproutings, beginnings or fog in things.

Gradual developments includes touchings or *reachings* and things which spread
acrossed wide surfaces or areas.

That of W's and N's influencings the E's in a lot then.

Semi tailored to the event itself and other could be added appropriate to other events and locations then.

Physical and Subject:

Red Alarms 3rd Middles and main environments Gcn assets earth Dragon stars.

Object travels and destinations, etc:

Wht 6th Gwa star was date and hour clashed for events assets, a cab, mother, tall containers, and that which associates groups, masses, loose earths or fine grained.

Wht W is a main cardinal direction of the four corners type and cardinals themselves cover the full range of their direction so includes the SW and *NW* as well.

6th far aways, acrossed way, tops, ends, completions, very high or tall aka the skies, etc.

Twice clashed (pair) Gwa Assets, containers, monies, mother, a cab and involve groups within a Duay lake or metals W pleasings or joy trigram.

Meets agitates and involves double bonded (pair) Pt water stars of Rat for plans, travels, transports, parents, etc.

Vis links Tops to surfaces or Far to Near them or in time Ends to Begins vice versa and those as influenced by:

Wht W or NW Fierce, medical, spiritual or material wants areas or bad news to Blk N, Backs, Darkness, Watery and close ties.

Causes/Changes:

Yel 4th Ph star changes meets Rs star areas, actions.

Yel centers or earthy and saturn like influences too:

4th line Gateways, decisions or above middles and social areas.

Rebirthed Ph star areas in changes of locations, entrances, exams, travels, parents, homes, etc involving nuturances or greeds within Duay W for pleaseings and Shun SE or travels, homes, bldg's, winds, etc.

Hider healthy but untimely Kw star and unfriendly, suppressed under the healthy Ph star bearer.

Can indicate the hidden ineffective absence or missing of security, etc for gateways then.

The rebirthed Ph star in changes bound and bonded the Grn 2nd locals By wood of Tiger star forming or strengthening that of winds, sounds, talks, damages, *enemies*, environments, etc then.

Day cn when one prisoner caught or turned in bonded to the dead Gry 5th Ryo officials star strengthening it that date.

Posted pair at top for study and reference.

12/23 Sunday V (Yel) w aka Yang earth Fire Horse Upper Gen FS#1 (Kan) Break day Under the Southern Red Phoenix.

Day Sun in Sag.

Moon Aries
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Patyanini where actions taken: Ju/Su to *Ju/Ve to Ju/La* similiar to a dasha but just specific to the month chart and of this date.

La = Lagna aka Asc aka The physical 1st bhava which is sign Leo type.

Putting a lot in this early today to break for awhile here.

Back tco our main vedic astro chart playing out for the month here.

Ketu and Rahu the karmic moon's nodes have entered Aries and Libra's areas now and in that Ketu no longer with Jupiter rx in Taurus areas nor is Rahu influencing the Mercury and Venus in Scorpio areas now.

Basically good in freeing those up especially Jupiter from those influences with that of Rahu now mainly affecting the Saturn in Libra areas forward now.

Says things can easily get out of control in those at times in the pressings of changes there.

So when you find yourselves too driven there back up and really think objectively about the things or areas you involve with and try to change there versus the head long plunge mode of jumping in.

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From the beginning our month had the same physical and nearly all positions the same as our Rat
solar month here so extra solid in accuracy with it's Leo physical and natured areas.

Looking or reviewing the Moon's areas of our month chart:

All have their yin and yang sides to them.

The Moon in the Virgo 2nd Bhava areas ruling that of pasts to do with our family and world domestic areas in Cancer 12th areas. Some have involve sacrifices, hardships, tragedies and releases and in that
areas of charities, hospitals and medicines plus the hidden and clandestine of some events regarding family or domestic areas as well.

The Moon in what are areas of the material, material values and self worths apply square to Mars in Sag 5th areas of politics, and children and those involved strong areas of passions and drives and the destructive of weapons aka guns as well there.

The Moon itself ruled by Mercury in Scorpio 4th Mother and home, etc areas and that of all types of finances, etc that in turn ruled by Mars in Sag 5th areas again adding some destructive natures and thinkings to the normal of just actions there.

In that your talking about youth or the younger, children, politics and politicians, mil, sheriff's, deputies, fire org's, some religous or long dstance components or items and the fiery in the 5th areas itself.

Mercury in that also rules the muntha of Gemini 11th in groups, goals and social rewards areas as well and drawing things of those areas into or involving the homes areas also.

A lot in the month is also a main thrust of the Moon in Virgo 2nd being the 11th Bhava relative to the Mercury in Scorpio 4th areas itself for actions and those being in groups, goals, and rewards to do with things of the Virgo material type areas or that of the material of and in healths, safeties, peacekeepings and the Govt itself.

You can often take that of home's areas to also include workplaces too.

[Separate info only but on the recent and huge tragedy in Connecticut before which our month took in, there at that time and of it's timed in a prasna take showed that of Saturn ruling the physical then and as the strongest graha of that particular chart then.

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The Moon at that time was 3 bhava positions away from Saturn.

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That was showing that actions to take place were in the 3rd bhava areas which is your:

Short journeys, com, local(s) areas and then teach and learn aka school's areas!

The Moon itself then was conjuncting Mars then.
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One of the areas associated the moon at the time as a zone was that of spoilt persons.

The lunar periods which all know to be very powerful influences to any chart period had that of the new moon's the day before and for the period as acting according to one's own will aka wantoness and of one who is distressed also as influences.

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Things like that are not entirely out of the picture yet and could yet fully apply as issues *in homes areas* yet as that of fires or thefts also too]!

Other than the separate info given all the above is the current status of our month chart *which uses only original positions* and says all those types of things are of and for our month and remain in play yet!

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Our main dashas falling under this U.S. Saturn dasha frame currently has everything under *Venus* in Scorpio 4th type areas as the sooksma aka *for setting things up that happen*.

These are the temporary main activities areas as derived from the original U.S. chart active at this time in all charts.

The patyanini types given in date area prior are peculiar to and for the date and of the U.S. month chart only.

23rd Ve/Mo

24th Ve/Ma

25th Ve/Ra

26th Ve/Ju

28th Ve/Sa

29th Ve/Me

Has been nothing wrong of the Wwg and the one toss error resulted as I'm simply used to doing types that don't require me to look at news prior.

Know now on certain toss types have to look at the news first before doing the toss itself.

So in the overall everything posted of the U.S. month is extremely accurate here.

Basically doing my usual and emphasis in prasna areas now so can integrate more of that within U.S. month charts themselves along with the Wwg.

Got confused in it some at time too as have to read across several books aka course pdf's keeping all open when do one as no one reference in that course covers all the terminologies the prasna modules present you needed to find it's answers!

Some as on the Arudha (key) could have been much more thouroughly and better covered sort of irritated me in that, and some of the older of poor english language equivalents just plain ignorant but despite can be made to be very useful.

Had sent for some assistance but think finally resolved the greatest bulk now.

Did rain for day wa in start again which *is still* of that one 3 coins toss of the Blk 6th lines P star changes in advancing(s) again, done awhile back.

That is as they are supposed to be used for entire month's or long term in the Wwg type forecasts, while not perfect seem to do pretty good job for the more tangible of those.

A lot actually matching the timed and toss at top here for water manifests and some winds or just air movements clashes as well.

No danger of taking the weather person's jobs away but think on the side makes for a pretty neat reference and aide to them too :).

12/25 Tuesday Mars (No in minus hopefully) VII Geng (Wht) s aka Yang Metal Monkey. Upper Chen in the creative, creation and raw or material power areas...

[At top yet nlm aka nm pair and toss active for date have Be fire stars bonded for water or moist stuff manifests, have wood areas in one clashed for bonds to R stars and other of an R star active vis the active of date element on it's line too.

Where water manifests should be able to count the lines which are Blk or have water stars also as active for the date. Then all their colors, that of (J) and (U) always active plus of the active lines and stars the directions or natures of their trigrams involved too.

So besides the major of officials as connecting as such for religous affairs of Christmas we then have many other active officials types and that of both rewards and dangers to this Christmas day].

Was more of the ill, disgusting and disgraceful of the wanton on day wa as well and as always with the *Quen* upper it was and that near it often as usual as we approach the full moon.

Was murderous fire in Rochester, NY early am looking at Moon for potential motivation(s).

Was hour m then and Hora was the Sun.

Avastha the cause, condition or circumstances under which the event(s) take place and Kriya is the action.

Vedic: Marry or marriage to a woman or young woman.

Western: Fear, concern.

Kriya: the actions to or that bring the results:

Vedic: One who is distressed.

Western: One who is living incognito.

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Vela the actions an individual takes to limit the scope of the event itself or the heigth of it's success and also brings it's matters to a close or end!

Vedic: Acting according to one's will wantoness.

Western: Intoxification or Insanity.

Only thing will say is the Vedic chart looked more direct clear and sharp had Mars in 3rd areas ruling the lagna aka physical.

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[Moon in effect then not it's physical position suggested actions were on and of the material Taurus 7th relationships type areas themselves at the time. Correction was it's physical position but it was being in 7th from Mercury the main ruler for that in this case that counted.

The lagna aka physical itself was Scorpio and Venus ruling the 7th relationships areas was there, and on top of that Mars in the 3rd areas ruled the physical and that at the time.

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Read 26th he had left a note and writing goes with 3rd areas also where Mars was for actions and ruling the lagna physical then plus Mercury itself for writings and documents too was rasi conjunct with Venus in the Scorpio lagna which fits well with that ruling the Relationships areas too and going with the time aka overall event there.

Also the Moon which represents the Mother was in the 7th bhava of Relationships say's Mother's would be very important in Relationships then and was with Jup rx showing Mother very important to material or material senses of self worth and that of any type of happiness and liesures, dreams, freedoms, combats, etc as Jup ruled Sag 2nd and Pisces 5th areas in the latter like flashes, sudden jolts.

Just some small items of many there, one has to go through the modules for other specific details on those, but feel free to replace or add to those yourselves.

[To cut any arguements about home type areas in short Mars was in the *Capricorn* 3rd areas then putting *Aquarius* in 4th type and homes areas then.

The 3rd and 4th areas were in common connected vis their ruler *Saturn in 12th bhava areas then*].

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In other words his plans and actions were all fulfilled in a time allowing the full execution of all that in the physical.

Not going to detail a bunch of specifics don't have the time now, but maybe another and as it's own astro page and post which is just of events then minus actual birth charts.

Prasna:

Figured out what the roadblocks were I was having when shifted from the basic Nature of Query that had been doing prior on up to the Success Failure aka Yes or No module of Kala's Prasna..

Mainly was of the question areas and that not openly taught in the Wwg or Prasna, Horary at all, so now the rules are pretty clear to me.

Had sent for aide on that as had me in a pretty confused state initially but being the holidays realized would be awhile so dug in and started comparing relationships to the Wwg and Western horary as well.

Knowing they all had to work similarly to yield the same answer for a given question enabled me to understand how the prasna treats each question nature to resolve it down to the final Y or N answer.

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Used a different Arudha method from the taught which correctly matched up to the hospital area my wife had an appt with Dec 11th and of a toss the night prior. *Was not what the toss was about but picked it all up in it and the Astro.

Should have no problems at all with those and already worked a few out now, using known correct toss answers that had marked the time of tosses on as references and came out the same just more info]! .

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[That's of something that is just there for *our entire year* and that as Mars is the Maha dasa of it]!

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Unfortunately some few are always driven way overboard in it at points like mad men and in some
pretty shocking and even huge enough ways for it to continue to be a reminder.

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[In some's charts be they of life, year or just a given month where the U.S. position at that time interacts with their own at one of those levels then that's quite too often where and when it pops in the bulk!

Interact it does as you are part of the U.S. envvironment and it's influences do indeed carry to those within it. When a Mars position stressed it becomes very noticeable!

A country's chart is not simply a chart it like you is a living entity and it's areas are in constant motion like yours and you living within it as your environment always impacts you to some degree in many, many of it's issue areas.

That itself is of energy and many energies in motion which in turn directly or indirectly influences and impacts you as well.

When any dominent element(s) of the U.S. itself at a given time makes hard aspects to your own positions you can and will become noticeably affected of it. Hopefully in quiet ways only known to you unless your a working member of the Govt that is.

The fiery of the year and even some of the destructive in should be pretty easily recognizeable and apparent to most now even including the various within politics and governmental areas and that of gridlocks, etc has really stood out.

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[Mars as the Maha dasa of the U.S. this year can easily impact any individuals chart within it at any time, and in cases where that's a hard aspect kerpow in the more unstable of us it pops hard]!

Where individual balanced and not unstable then effects much less adverse but still something will go on for them relative the U.S. at the time.

I included the currents of U.S. derived and temporary charts here now especially as you've now seen already *this month* how powerfully it's energies for events along with the super known of lunar periods themselves actually impacts our own lives in very major ways!

Even in the more mundane of geographical areas themselves rather than people the same thing applies in the natural of disasters and in worst case of bombings, etc. Mars is heat and that of the drought was not separate but within it too.

This is not hard to understand if you for a fact get it that *all things are interconnected period* and that of which we are directly part even more so and especially of a very, very powerful chart such as the U.S. in the first place itself.

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Many do and have at specific times or small periods of them in this year *already* had persons or issue areas in it where we then feel more or much greater animosity, jealousies, even rage or hostilities too *that are or were well beyond the normal* of most years.

That again is as this particular year the U.S Maha dasa of Mars it's main dominant influence is *an additional driver and influence *on any within it* chart positions as well*.

Not often as may only interact with you personally if your one of those that have a connected aka aspected position at the given time once or twice in the whole year *but when that does apply the effects are very strong* and can last burning within you quite awhile and those are specifically of the Mar's character!

Yes certainly does also interact with that of any business's, corporations, enterprises, groups and org's as well that get affected at times too.

Just part of the way the higher power set things up and why it can rain on both the just and unjust as the saying goes.

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Some may have to think awhile before it comes to them there but I'm sure a lot will remember some of their angry or ill with others and issue points in the previous of 2012's part of this current U.S. year.

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That's strongly active in play until our next U.S. year!

That's normal of natural cycles but learning to recognize those times for what they are and not gut spontaneously reacting or taking actions showing your ignorance in same and towards others in those zones is very important to our own health's and others safeties also.

That's so as once we take an action in the extreme than it may be too late to ever fully correct or erase it's consequences on others which does happen!

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Think we will be better or more ok by knowing that and to some degree where it stems from and of and in that also the greatest bulk of us do not want anything to do with the reckless of the spontaneous and uncontrolled of angry outbursts of rage or actions of men or a few men or women and even of the disasterous in the rebellious of youth or children in some of those things,that have been going on!

Although we could be on the recieveing end too (From unfriendly powers or terrorists) it's more a time where minus the combative to the highest degree possible exceept for defensive or counter we need to be very objective and *responsible* in where we make or take any strong assertive actions in.

Adhere to the positive traits of Saturn and not the negative.

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[Then even if you don't believe in a higher power, God's or the God, adhere at least to all the remaining of the *Ten Commandments*!

You can't go wrong in improving family and other relationships if you truly adhere to that *in your heart* as a moral code.

Each has their rightfully free preferences there and even the Wwg Iching is very much similiar to those when it comes to moral behavior or interactions with family and others, *very, very similiar*]!

Uncontrolled anger in rage, depressions, hateful or spitefull actions or outbursts is never ever the answer or the way and most certainly not in the natural or of the Tao itself!

All things in moderation a much more reasonable and better path.

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[Make it a resolution to avoid anger fests in this upcoming new year as well, we are all more than that]!

Special thanks to our friends across and out this way for thanksgiving and christmas too you made it a better one than you know and to all the sacrificing at the hospitals and va as well.

In that the same for those of the armed forces always sacrificing and serving our country as well and pray also for our govt's higher and better wisdom to guide the leaderships in these very soul wretching and trying times.

Hope the DOS Sec doing better and look forward to new one as well.

On the upcoming full moon around Dec 28th of Gemini areas where Moon in Gemini opposes Sun in Sag areas *will just be of the Wwg itself*.

Wishing all a good and better safe, fortunate, blessed and wonderful christmas and it's holidays

12/26 Wednesday VIII (Wht) yo Upper Duay.

Guessing some had a good xmas judgeing from an email response hadn't got to yet.

Did only one toss yesterday and hadn't asked on rain as it remained totally overcast day s from the precedeing rain of day wa.

Had #24 - #19 that of Returns which is weathers associated and Arrivals involving *Quen loose earths, the receptive, nuturance and masses*.

In that asked matched up with several people that date including about 3 neighbors as well. Two friendly one non thai unfriendly of this year itsefl from the get go and told me what I needed to know about the unfriendly with a long distance component there too.

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Overall however it's a weathers of environments type and have always stated that about #24 in the pasts, wasn't what I had in mind of the question but that was the response.

Instead of the direct of P star changes it has the stormy Zen trigram sitting on the earth's realms aka lower trigram with loose earth above it and then turns into the lake or water in #19 on the earth's realms lower trigram areas.

Latter is why have always associated with weathers as well, and mainly the Zen stormy side of it in the presents said it was coming in.

It in that case of being a stormy type had and has it's changes as that of an R star advance. R stars in a Zen trigram refer to their jolty side as dangers and thunders in the minimum!

Also on the Object aka (U) Red 4th line has Void but not dead B stars suggesting *Winds* as part
of it's responses and matters of concern areas. Those in the separate are competitive and link back connect to a Grn E's, Big, Tall or Long distance 3rd Middles or the far and wide areas of Local(s) Bcn star areas.

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Those at certain hours interact with the skie's line K stars so things of tops, far or across ways, net's and skies, etc went and go with them!

Very easy to see from that this is definitely a weathers of environments related set of hexagrams and it has actually worked out exactly that way especially the *Winds* part many times in the past.

Move over Jack.

That pair and as that I always get with 6 coins so definitely it's version and also has to work out the same in 3 coins too as it's of the basic hexagram's structure themselves which remain the same in both on those points.

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Took the extra time there so any can see that it's strong as a weathers related pair.

Beyond that it's a happenings of the environments pair which then allows matches to other
environmental conditions too!

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Still an applicable pair in other for today and tomorrow yet that you can check into, else use at top the nm and toss pairs showing near same in effects of the Pm - Kcn lines, etc!.

12/27 Thursday Jupiter IX Ren (Blk) sh Yang water Earth Dog Upper *Li*.

Posted all countries full moon pair at top and to be used with nm the toss, plus our and solar month pairs or descriptions.

Full Moon All countries:

Full Moon Gemini exacts the 28th but pair starts hr t tonight plus that of prior needing completing to it as well.

One thing you should understand of that as the polar opposities of Sag and Gem are active that implies some destructives as well and in this day after correction you've already seen some.

Those two rasis (rashis) aka signs are known for releaseings in forms of dissolutions and destructive actions!

So you can expect in areas relating to those two and in networks or communication as example besides the tendencies for wide contrasts to be made of and in those areas, that they are also where some of the destructive actually play in things.

Advisary:

Basically still a lot to do with the travels and movements areas in things close by and to homes, plus that of schools areas still fit.

Very Sorry and apologize for this but had to make yet another correction:

Stems of slight med effect as had taken a sleeping aid and in somewhat of a fog from that plus basically somewhat overloaded too as I really got badly turned around here??? Had even used the wrong date no less in the calc's???

Liked the other a bit better myself which was actually today's (Saturday's) story no less, but have to reflect that which is correct as fm was yesterday friday Dec 28th.

FM Pair Corrected:

That of Great durations or intervals involves Severings or Extremes which lead to things or that of Great stength in actions and things.

Ok has Zen Uppers as the influencings which are stormy and windy types for this period.

Physical aka Subject:

Red 3rd Ryo metal star meets Gcn earth star.

That of S, Frts, alarms or that fiery or of fires plus the famed and wealths in influences too:

In 3rd line middles or wide and far of local(s) in Ryo metal star areas.

R star areas of Power, officials, wealths, dangers, men, threats, finances, and any you wish to add.

Object and matters of concern:

Wht 6th Gsh earth stars.

Those under fierce, viscious. and ills conditions or bad news and then also regarding material, moist, medical, visual and religous areas *as just a few* influenceing things of completions, tops, ends, the far or across ways, internets, etc under and within which they apply.
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Some generated of the G star areas and then a lot of that done too G star areas relative the Wht influences applying to them.

All G star meanings but mostly fianacial and luxeries small or large areas main under the physical's areas but certainly includes things of women, medias, cars or transports, images and most other of G star meanings.

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Were a number of recent events involving women aside the material ones and leading into this period as well.

Causes/changes:

Blk 1st Gc changes star meets agitates in attempts to control Pt water star areas.

Use standard star meanings.

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Date same Grn 2nd Local(s) and close by Ph water star of travels, homes, com, doc's, homes, leaderships, comforts and nuturances, greeds, etc.

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Date bonds the Grn 2nd Local(s) and close by changed resultant and hider *By wood star pair* for: Windy, isolations, talks, destructive actions, damages, losses, countries, passports, borders, neighbors, siblings, etc. Any of B star areas.

Note how related the posted toss on Las Vegas matches up against the Timed FM pair for Dec 28th itself here. Tosses are easier no calc's.

Blog:

On prasna like the Wwg the greatest bulk of what appears to be negative in them applies more to the weathers and climates than to the masses themselves.

Most negative or malific within are usually easily overcome often ignored or directed into positives instead at the individual levels.

So only a relatively very few actually end up affected in some dire way or do something destructive themselves but in that they sure get noticed. A lot of the more minus in the U.S.has been mainly of the dasha timings with a Maha dasa of Mars for the year and then that of Saturn for the current quarter so a lot of what you've been seeing is normal under those.

Both show the same types of things situationally with the Wwg more direct, general and easier to use, and the Prasna for the highly expanded of components, factors and details in describing the person(s) or events.

Missing Las Vegas 10 yr old girl:

Vis Moon relative to Mercury's position itself as ruler of the Gemini lagna chart there then.

Things of Pisces symbolic 5th type areas those important on mind or for likely actions in of that 5pm time listed of Friday Dec 21st and that location then.

So by symbolic 5th areas things connecting to children and liesures, gifts, play, risks, etc and in Outer event areas at the time.

Moon was with Uranus in those 5th areas and could represent real mother too and then of the actual Gemini lagna chart itself (For refers too areas) The Moon was in it's Pisces 10th Outer events areas which ruled the material of family, etc in Cancer 2nd material areas. Sometimes the 2nd areas represent things which are lost too.

The 5th areas are ruled by Jupiter and Ketu with it then was relative the Moon in that of 2nd material areas goes with it includes earn/spend, etc which reflects too 12th areas of hospitals, losses, possibly kidnapping or the just hidden aspects of activities then in Gemini chart.

Further connects to areas of woods, parks, father or grandparent,or that of long distances or religions, etc which also reflect too 8th areas of finances, dangers, extreme changes or accidents, etc in Gemini chart.

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Mercury is that charts ruler and was rasi conjunct with Venus and *Rahu* in Scorpio 6th areas of sustenances, work, daily routines, etc.

Mars in Capricorn 8th rasi aspects those and Mars rules the 11th groups, goals, or social rewards areas of Aries areas and other of the Scorpio 6th areas too.

Mercury and other of 6th areas also aspects the Jupiter rx plus Ketu in 12th areas also. Gets the accidents and fierce deadly on the jobs stuff in that too which connected to a hospital and other of 12th areas.

Mars itself further rasi aspects that of Saturn in Libra 5th areas for either the rough and difficulties of those areas and/or that of law enforcements also.

Interesting though that Venus of the Scorpio 6th areas conjuncting Mercury and Rahu there is also *ruling*:

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In Vedic Prasna found that both the Sun and Venus whichever is stronger represents the Father in it's chart's. In one system exactly even and in the other Venus gets it, so Venus also the Father here.

The Saturn stuff in the 5th areas and that of the pasts, hidden, etc of Jup, etc in the Taurus 12th type areas as well.

Have a *triple line changes* toss on *where* todays date but is complicated and no time or headspace to evaluate:

Was #34 - #13 That *Strong* involves that of #43 *Extremes or Severings* leads to *Fellowship of men*.

G star areas troubled, K star areas strong, physical Yel 4th Pw stars dead, untimely,

Object Blk 1st Gt star void but ok then Grn 2nd Ry changes star kill bonds Yel 3rd resultant Gh star.

One note on the 2nd hexagram *Fellowship of men* name:

Normally stands for the positive in that and of those, but do also consider not all under that name are actually good and catches the ill of some other types you can figure out but extremes in some types of trafficings or terrorist just a couple of the negative sided as well.

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Further notes that's applying in many other locations as well, to includes local(s) and right here too so posted at top!

Add Firday day X (Blk) h:

Looks like should have asked if she was dead first, but assumed the positive and just asked where then:

Event date:

Dec 21st day cn hr yo same Red 3rd Bcn star clashing the Wht W's Ends, tops, far aways, skies Bsh star for rough fierce, lossy events connecting to a Gh star female.

Then hour bonded to the Bcn star for that lost or missing and involved striking out a Blk 1st changed resultant Rm star male in the begins.

Tuesday Dec 26th day yo again bonded those areas and struck out involving a Blk 1st changed resultant Rm star.

Thursday day sh those Wht 6th Bsh changes stars on wednesday in court bonded that struck out Rm star forming fire for happenings as that. In that describes the fierce talks also.

Today X (Blk) h Friday bonded to a Grn E's, etc Ry assertive official, lawyer or man star concerning environments or colleagues or similar.

Day t will once again connect to the Rm star areas also that line may have represented the death of the girl in begins too or of that to do with the car.

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[Latter added as they now believe her's a dead body found and Blk matches for *N areas* where a body found]!

Trigrams had E's, W's NW, S's, and SE's for main environments too with the more important char or natures being of Zen and Chen as Outer events taking place and influences moving forward.

Murder quite possible in that of all power type stuff and as Chen raw power birth and death trigram does Kill back involving the Zen of jolts the sudden, etc in the initials.

Also that of Chen Metal on Inner and earths areas Chen is being controlled or killed back by Li trigram as in fire or a fiery like state. So Ry there in changes can be that of the attack too.

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Again though I had initially assumed quite the positive in approach instead.

Timed for that hour had been #40 - #16 Involves #63 which had a month same Red 1st begins Pt happenings , transports, parent, etc *hider, hidden* star clashing all the Kw stars areas in it also.

All Wwg added at top now.

If had asked Y/N type would have fared better, so think next time that's also something I must do first off everytime ahead to avoid any problems. Can see it's a very important thing to do to decide the approach to take for analyzing any other charts also.

Truck stop probably goes with Jupiter stuff also in prasna chart and with a Gemini physical sure would take in things of transports and travels too. Says that chart also still very accurate for the event there then and that of the Moon vis 5th and child areas is is no doubt connected in all this too.

About all I can do there now as still a lot new to me and doing in days what takes years normally means still need to do more of my own charts first, in order to gain ground, but hopefully something in that as are valid event time details.

On other prior to do with firefighters had wondered why the Moon in relationships of that Scorpio physical chart was ruling Cancer 9th areas and from what read today was a woman of foreign descent that had bought the weapons which explains it. An odd part to it is Mars in terms of the Mother taaking care of others in a household also represents the Mother too amongst Sisters and all the regular stuff, so that had some bearing on things of that chart too.

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Had did a toss to do with something around hr cn here and forgot about #9 - #57 Involve Quarrels was a yes of some's talk close by. It had Blk 1st Pt water changes star and hr t had rain here.

Vedic, etc studies notes:

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Added some to do with Venus also representing a Father in the prasna which was a surprise and new to me but a rule of the Karatwas bases that on which is the stronger Sun or Venus at the time.

Karatwas are rules for Karakas of Grahas and basically say what each Graha actually significates and specifically makes or produces in actions for effects and what they rule in the charts.

Kala showed those at exact same strength but Parashara had a defintely stronger *Venus* for representing the father then.

Also the court date matched up in the timing as well so is a good chart.

Sunday add:

Was the said missing 10 yr old girl of LV murdered Dec 21st?

Toss got #31 involve #44 leads to #33.

Intercourse or wooings of influencings involve that of Coming to meet, Meetings or Encounters lead to that of Retreatings aka hideing.

Physical aka Subject:

Yel 3rd Bs metal stars.

That of environments, groups, injuries, damages etc and in specific that to do with a physical bodies health.

Hint: Metals are in status buried under the Earth Ox (c) date element.

Object matters of concern:

Blk N 6th Pwa earth star *changes in advancings*.

Object supports the physical as a yes indicator.

Something is emphasized or mal of the happenings, news or travels itself in the far away of Las Vegas since date clashes, hinders the Pwa star's advance there.

Hinders but can't stop the advance itself.

Then advance is to a Void (something's up) but yet strong Psh star.

Since line Blk may have been false news involved.

Also may separately and additionally reflect that new storms will crop up too in N type areas. On dates of or relating to those earth elements.

The Blk 6th changed resultant Psh star can bound to bond the Red 2nd Local(s) and close by of a Gm hider star matches female too hiding under or suppressed by Rw bearer stars there.

It also clashed in begins that of Grn 1st Pcn star areas.

Anyway fire is formed for R star manifests and within Gen NE or that of something quite large or relatively big as the Mountain and hard earth trigram with that of stillness an establishment or stability in things to it.

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If nothing was false or left out of the news infos then likely girl was murdered as K star weak and P star would kill but if was any false info and news the girl could be hidden there or protected by someone and not neccessarily dead.

Jup in 12th was a large disaster or a disaster for either something large as an enterprise or of the long distances sides and hidden via a truck stop.

Mars in 8th indicated fiery in extreme and unexpected changes which includes the deadly or other
and Saturn in Libra 5th that of difficulties of play type areas involving the Mars in 8th stuff it ruled. That connected back to daily routines and job areas.

Both Mars and Saturn do each make rasi aspect to and involve the Jup in 12th stuff, with Saturn also ruling the Mars in 8th stuff.

Means one would have difficulties and harsh experiences with that of children or areas of play that involved the Jup in 12th areas connected to the Mars in 8th areas actions.

Jup can be children also and Ketu there can account for accidents or disappearences too.

Having just started using Prasna's I don't rely on them for other than my own personal questions so far but they are are definitely ok to show some of the influences or details of an event at some location and match well in some and of connections they show.

It's my blog so I post on about anything even what appears trivial of my own *if there's a good toss to go with it* that others can be informed of or benefit from.

Plus they serve as references in any related of subject or party for any future events.

Some scoff at dangers of which are many types but that on Yemen today a threat of that type and match, are 3 troubled R stars of this fm pairs so going to be troubles coming up.

About all I can mention on it as pretty shot out now since took the sleep pills the one night and head pretty fried from all the astro study too.

12/31 Monday Moon Cancer Day III Bing (Red) y Upper Gen.
Hopefully nada for awhile don't intend to do a new years write as a week after or so will be that for a new solar and u.s. month's again aka the page turns.

On rain or just wet stuff only may be more connected to the N's since line was Blk 6th's...Just note such for log purposes here so can check of those with related timings as come up.

Will condense the vedic astro down by doing small Prasna versions only as full can be very long and drawn out when it comes to a blog.

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On the remaining escaped chicago prisoner you can using today's date refer to a toss:

#33 - #12 involves #44 and the timed of hour with that was #41 - #19 involves #24.

On the first set which is the toss pair that has came up repetitously in various combinations recently so assume it's realtive in a number of things at global levels also.

Prasna had effective Moon in 9th or far away areas for main stuff and a Libra final end degree Lagna and also applies other things like in govt areas as well.

Don't count on the suggested of names, etc as applying or working out 100% in all cases, but in some and some main they will.

Unknown just how relative those are but at some point will also look at timings on the original event chart to see what might be doing there.

There's always some relevance as they show the influences in that of our weathers and environments with effects on us and of specific cyclic patterns in that which can be tracked to previous event dates as well.

That on Blk 6th of Las Vegas that listed as possibly tainted is only due to the color with a date clash and then a strong but void changed result not directed at anyone.

Just part of conditions that had to be noted as things can happen with informations passed from one to another, etc. Some hiderances of some type in it likely applied, etc.

Did finally get a reply from the author and teacher of the Kala courses who clarified the texts on a key rule on connected bhavas qualities versus the lagna in questions.

Was very close to what had asked on and his separating and distinguishings of those in relevance to the actual Y or N answer was much better than the texts and immediately useful to me.

Then on another area including the arudha direction as well as other separate text references on Vargottama too he provided more and better specifics than texts had which clarified those as well.

He'd been busy like thought and appreciated his aide.

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Think at this point can rely on the Prasna as strongly as do the Wwg but practical and speed wise the Wwg a bit more in that regard and then more in additional specifics at times from that of the Prasna.

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On U.S. Temp dashas under Saturn start with the Sun as the Sooksma beginning 11pm tonight and hour t of day IV (Red) m *under a Quen upper* for the New Year 2013 start.

Starts then as a Su/Su dasha with several per day under the Sun though Jan 3rd finishing as Su/Ve dasha completing into Jan 4th Day VII (Wht) w takes us there.

Dashas being areas for main directions and events in any's chart and of the U.S. Month temp type in particular of these.

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Month's Sun for actions and dasha's as well are in Scorpio 4th type areas and things.

Transit Sun is in it's Sag 5th areas to conjunct the month's Mars position there exactly in about 7 days.

Then by rasi already applying in effect for actions, and definitely some of the fiery and fires stuff can be in this zone as well then likely goes with the Gun's stuff too.

Did indeed see some relative of Govt in news checks on the Libra areas, have never tossed and hope all does work out there.

Sorry to hear about DOS SEC Mrs Clinton and hope things highly improve for her as well.

Jan 1st 2013 Tuesday Mars IV Ting (Red) m *Upper Quen*.

Mars in Capricorn, Moon Leo.

*Happy New Year*.

Wishing it to be one the main anyway!

Timed: *#11* - #5 Involves #54...

Was some suggested concerns in news read last night on the possible assasination of the President of the United States of America???

Tossed on as a question on attempts of with this year of 2013 it's frame and did get *a solid yes answer*!

Can't say tons about it but in the more fortunate it could just represent that of threats instead as asked of attempts, but dweary stuff in any view.

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What got suggests of the far aways or high areas and *eastern and possibly of religous beliefs
connected* in the strongest.

That can also represent things of flight or someone tall or large and/or in lieu extremely biased of any height and the easterly directions.

It can connect to things of the conservative or centers in any local(s) area as well should be descriptive enough in the safe to start with.

In initial immediates hoping not and in and of other things altogether between *now and January
5th* has strong elements in it, and perhaps that's more along lines of just hindering him in some chosen areas or objectives that's in.

Still can't discount that of accidents or dangers to it and will check other periods through the year outcomes look to be positive but when have mixed aspects not guarenteed and says you don't get or achieve all desired in one's objectives.

Time may have sadly moved a step backwards as far as the intelligence of man goes in today's world.

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Hope house also passes the avoid fiscal cliff bill as the Senate has today that would give the year
at least some start towards progress in it!

Also hope all pull through ok for a gradual but better new year.

1/2 Wednesday Mercury Day V (Yel) cn Upper Chen.

Moon Leo.

Timed #10 - #58 Involves #37.

Read the fiscal cliff bill finally got passed by house as well, definitely good news.

Saw some friends yesterday and heard from some other so was very good in that.

No birth charts were referred to for the Jan 1st entry and likely in forward won't be looked at either, did use a toss time vedic chart aside Wwg for additional timing, etc.

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[On every nm most being imperfect eclipses or conjuncts and the fm's polar opposites will mention the *modality of their energy* as had did on this fm.

Not all their many traits *only the modality of their energy* which will be a reference that certain events can be examined under, no more no less.

That I listed for Sag and Gemini applies to all dual rasi's which further includes that of the Pisces and Virgo rasis too and will be re mentioned then.

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Here it's a reference for a lunar period which will be mentioned for that quite singular purpose].

Really woke up early for once and wife too same time even but probably will fizzle out and go back to sleep in a little while.

Ok that toss mentioned Blk 6th's for possible rain was Pwa changes star advanceing to Psh star and yesterday had bonded the Psh while today clashes it.

It had Grn 1st Pcn stars that forgot about so that's for that which brings it here and part of last Sunday's add.

Then before that even Dec 21st and in reverse in star types on line positions of the first muffled Chicago toss for the E's and S's the same stars.

Anyway have or had very slow weak rain from last night here. Not sure when started but weak and slow type so far. Not much accumulation to it had a soaked porch so went out and the ground all damp but no puddles just damp thus far.

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Did not toss on fiscal cliff but found had on a day yo in Nov did a 3 coins type on middle class taxes for year e on people whose earnings below $200K:

Was #6 involve #37 which led to #45 and of two K star changes lines one 6th and one 2nd with the
2nd Kcn changes star bonded by date the winner of the clashes. It was rebirthed and the King of
the year whereas the 6th was a Ksh retreat type.

Would never remember something that far back as nearly every day new here, wasn't looking for but that to do with rain and found what I titled as tax toss at same time.

Keeping better records these days helps.

The vedic astro like the Wwg is now also a permenant fixture of this blog for the extremely and valuable insights it as a grandiose system(s) also provides.

The Wwg is a much more highly streamlined tuned and efficient system for question specifics but when it comes to ranges of time versus just a date and more details then I prefer the vedic for the verifiably accurate of that.

Event charts are not functionally the same as personal charts and a lot to do with personal charts would also have to be expressed differently.

Here everything is about events in the main, a lot towards safety in them also, so try to keep it to that in your thoughts about here anyway.

***Add Day cn's areas***

Did a toss on the water rain stuff noted this am and has an initial yes with a clash to the 6th line with a resulting bonding to the 3rd changes line.

In closer exam it looks more like a hot water and pipeing issue and going with that in this case, can be both as other of N areas somewhere may have had some.

Early last year when had been a well vandal issue to it had some friends look at it initially then to spare any complications decided to have well company fix it. Was another separate back then within a week and got another friend to correct it.

But this time right here looks different:

It minus hot water had behaved similarly to this time from a different issue as well and had checked for that right from the start this am, but was ok.

So end result think this was simply to do with faulty hot water valve and the way the weird pipes associated work.

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Still Wwg was right about the timing for water stuff just hadn't thought of it like that.

Then sorted it out with a toss today #16 - #62 wraps it up and appears also catches that of the finances effects in global for the date too..

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Ok if fires are down that's good but things not done yet and still have the fiery of stuff in accidents, explosions, travels, shootings, and apparently hot waters, constructions areas, govt bldg'(s), then can be things of electrical or electronics natures also all in this too *for a good long while and strong next few*!

You've been watching it play stronger over last 12 days at least and affects areas of daily routines in any and govt mainly of 6th type areas versus 7th and that of 3rd types areas. Then in global as the raw of it's current aspects.

Best news saw overseas tonight was on Japan's supercooling technological breakthrough that allows special refrigerators to perfectly freeze vegetables and meat products with no cellular destruction and losses compared to conventional refrigerators. Congratulations that's some * very cool* stuff.

Was some on energy areas as technologies in relationships being given emphasis in Germany too.

Those are plus and acheivements sides of Mars in Capricorn our 6th under Saturn in Libra 3rd which rules, aspects and connects Mars electrical, etc type areas into Aquarius 7th areas in relationships, etc, etc. Mars itself dynamically and tensionally aspects Saturn ruling it to be exact.

Makes some of that in Govt Bldg's of recent and various of globals a lot more understandable being under the influences per these and timing frame.

Thursday reflecting yesterday again had rain here just about exact same levels so far with no puddles but was some type of rain and no chance of hot water tank and pipeing effects this time, which was 50/50 in yesterdays.

Date same #16 toss areas original Gry 2nd local(s) Ke star line active and bonds three Rs stars forming water as well for P water star type happenings . Even the health stuff of DOS Sec going home fit of that toss, not to mention of the Astro 6th health's areas and govt works also.

Glad the Vice President was instrumental in the compromises enanbling a fiscal cliff bill to pass and although main points were along President's desires still one must step back and give proper credti to the person who got the job done. Any else only of Ego's alienates people in result, and afterall everyone already knows it's the President who must sign it and bills into law.

It's also obvious that certain republican leaders with whom the Vice President also worked were also instrumental in the turn around that enabled final passage of the bill as well, and then to the good common sense of those who finally put the public's plight before other personal interests in it.

Can't say we needed all the extra stress but no doubt about how well such reflected actual aspects and influences of the heaven's in all this as well. I;m sure most of us are glad it finally got done without a total shutdown for once.

Where was all that harsh, harsh energy in our year?

In the 5th bhava areas themselves where you've observed the combat of it the whole year between two parties and many other of the influenced that falls within that of 5th bhava areas!

Harsh effects as Mars was and is Rashi conjunct Saturn *for our year itself* and that in the earth sign of Virgo 5rh type areas it's location.

In some cases too many really even phobically so as Mars also rules that of Rahu in the Scorpio 7th areas. Many types of fears, agitations, and destructive actions have simply ran out of control of and from those areas improperly expressing into or through Scorpio 7th relationships areas itself!

Obviously includes things of earths and that particular of the Virgo rashi areas too, again it's a dual rashi type so it's tend to release energy in dissolutions type of form or in destructive ways.

5th areas are also that of things that grow or sprout and you saw what the heated of the Mars effect was and in resulting experiences since conjuncts Saturn there.

That's also what you've been watching since July so you see I'm not sign bashing at all nor treating you in some idiot's view of things but in true renditions occurences backed instead and reflecting it's modal energy type and it's nature in events and form!

Many other of the influenced of our year's 5th areas such as any mil like or type org including police, and various law enforcements agencies, that of any Mil or Mil related area as well.

Pretty much anything that Mars (Mr fiery) normally rules of the U.S. Year's Scorpio 7th relationships, etc areas and of Aries 12th includes hospitals, more so clandestine areas and any to do with disasters etc are reflected in and of this year's 5th bhava activities, actions, etc.

Then all the normal of 5th areas such as studies, professional studies and jobs, children you name it.

The arguements, travels, upsurpings of law, authority, misdirected actions towards elders, parents, laws then that of environments including the drought, etc all connect. Mercury in Cancer 3rd areas rules the Virgo 5th of the year and then that of the Muntha Gemini 2nd material areas of year as well.

The bulk of what they argued over all year pretty much right in there.

The Sun Authority in the Gemini 2nd areas ruled the Leo 4th Homes,lands, mother, etc areas and then the Moon in Aquarius (mental and energies, cold and watery) 10th type areas ruled the Cancer 3rd Environmnets, schools, etc and that close by's.

Keeping in mind that *Saturn* rules the Aquarius 10th Outer events areas too and that Mars areas are conjuncting Saturn's areas in earthy and critical Virgo 5th type areas for our year brought in other of the harsh for experiences including the droughts in the heartlands too!

In our year it's the year chart positions that are active and count, and as you can see those differ from what the actual transiting positions are at any time. The latter form aspects to the year chart activating different of it's areas at different times.

Quick but proper year view sums a lot you've seen occuring for this U.S. year with more of it as that's all still to keep playing out yet.

That being transitory and temp in our year and month views and then the shorter of main dasa frames *are also global aspects* within their frames so you see correspondances in those too all the time as well.

A lot that you've seen for our Outer events stuff in their harsh sides this one, has been large or huge compared to prior years.

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That's as our Lagna (Physical) is that of material Taurus. Jupiter rx big stuff resides there and so expands the types of events that we experience in the physical this year or basically that which aspects Jupiter is what gets expanded and usually as such into our Outer events too.

When Ketu was with it mostly mal and lossy stuff and then Feb 2nd on when Jup goes direct and back to forward motion a lot of things can begin to improve globally.

We will still have our year's positions yet being worked out and influencing events and event types as well but that above eases some of it, and then a fresh start in our next U.S. year.

There's Yin and Yang and each within the other of any Graha or aspects and that which they also represent but still there is in the oveall a main prevailing thrust to them as their positions and strenghts indicate.

So don't get too carried away in your own views or passionate actions one way or the other, Being objective and fair minded above and beyond the hyper of vindictiveness or the critical which easily obstructs good proper or accurate judgements.

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[That of the 5th areas itself has created the largest brunt of the numerous problems, troubles, ills, and dangers in social areas anywhere in this year. That mainly vis the malefic sides of energy there are intensified in this particular year with a lot directed at authority as well.

It's a two way there so works in both directions but in specific is mainly of and to do with those areas and in a personal chart would indicate problems brought to one from those who belong to that area.

In that it's probably not exactly to do with the bulk and in that sense maybe not at all *but of the rouge and fringe elements* and not just entirely random individuals alone residing within them the main.

Also though some of news might back peddle a little in the contrary, in fact through the years and of some ill in this one of these areas stories have came out. So positions there say more things are going on and can very likely further surface in this year yet.

Say that as would never think of classifying any entire org type area negative as would be totally wrong in that, but we have some serious issues that of 5th areas themselves this year no doubt].

You need to be very careful in those and of your own judgements as in recents Venus in Scorpio areas had accentuated that of the malisciouly vindictive in our passions as well. A lot off their clocks there!

In the year with Venus too in the physical Taurus areas that of extremely fixed instead of the more optimal of flexible views has been expanded for the plus and minus of that too.

Easy to get consumed by your own passionate views on things which in many cases may be totally incorrect. We've seen enough of the rage types to last us a century in this one, so be careful about such causes and such types. *They bring happiness to none*.

By applying a little reflective thought to that of Jupiter in the physical relative Mars in the 5th acting upon and also through Saturn are areas we need to be careful of as far as emphasizing any type of negative and stick to positive areas, things and venues instead. Else dangers increase and more disasters.

Those are also good areas for funneling or patterning any types of creative works and jobs to do with that of energy itself for example.

That is also a global pattern too but more uniquely so to our own year in specific and one in which we could accomplish great things. So directing your attention to those would quite likely profit us as well.

It's also brought out what are a lot of mental health problems in aggressive behaviors that our society needs to come to grip with in children's to adults areas too.

Venus in final end degree of Scorpio today of hyped ill in passions for some and a good bye, bye to that as it exits and enters the Sag areas tomorrow and through Jan 6th may be a bit bumpy of it right there.

That of the zero and early degrees of any rasi at times is like getting jolts in initial effects as part of the new changes for the Graha and rasi involved then.

Generally new health or ills areas come up when any Graha begins transit to a new rasi too so you might look for some of that too.

Just the way things work and should give you a much better picture of the larger scope too our own year as it has played and continues to play out.

Ok sorry that I didn't outline all the positives there are as those to any area also.

This describes a lot in how things connected allowing for the very harsh and ill of disasters we've had both natural and our social and human relationships types this year.

Nearly all areas can foster much more positive results by accentuating the positive possibilities if desired and efforts made versus a lot of what we allowed to negatively dominate relationships instead.

A strong basic gist feel only presented so feel free to expand and further detail it things do have two sides in mimimum so room for that, and it comes down to the flavor of choices you make as to how it comes out for you. Then in that be aware of the expansion factor and in that destructive choices can have serious unexpected and undesired after effects to them.

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Ok caught quite a bit in the definitely 5th related fits and more on Yahoo news tonight that of Detroit Mich guns plus a boatload other.

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[Good they caught the other Chicago escapee today:

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That would match #33 - #12 hexagrams as Inner areas 1st a Gen trigram also the old man and 2nd was Quen trigram for SW and today bond it's Pwa star there.

Probably wouldn't have thought but maybe next time and also of original Cab event time the 12th bhava for hidden areas was Virgo which in prasna is SW too plus Moon was in Virgo.

Both Gen and Chen can have the old man meaning so was double covered, day e would have bonded s another SW element and then no date per se was required but Moon in Virgo would have given extra emphasis to the whole matter of original events too.

So did learn something wa element also SW].

Some other keys will stay quiet on but the repitives factor of getting a same hexagram was in it.

On the pair itself where and when capture are too different questions but ends up they both came up in the where version as asked.

We had no appointed for prisoners but were interested in their locations.

If have that rest takes care of itself and I'll give you the clues for you to also work it out for yourselves.

The Appointed for *Where* is the P star and the Wwg did it's job in showing the where and the when in the dates also with one by bond.

It had also shown that they were doomed from the begins.

The prison break out occurred on day X (Blk) c.

Then as xtra aid in the 2nd case that also R stars represent attacks or fighting and B stars injuries and K star in double duty and more represented hospital too.

So if you look at the pairs in that manner you'll see the exact solutions it provided beyond that of the colorful of disguise which is a correct Yi Jing (iching) solution in itself and in such all was fulfilled.

In that type could see Quen as going with Mother or home as that of comforts and nuturances areas also besides SW's.

Had waited awhile to do the last toss on it, since first appeared a little muffled as had asked of two not one.

Turned out was definitely useable but a later second clinched and refined it.

Going Beyond that the prasna's had said without a doubt they would be caught, and also gave the when, showing where and conditions also.

Not highly experienced in those I didn't understand exact how all that was to be represented and work of them but get it of that type now.

The disguise again also went well with the Saturn in Libra it's lagna for appearances also.

Think the Wwg Iching showing the possibility further nailed it as part of the reality too.

Other than an event time I'm not sure the Prasna by itself in cases purely involving the impersonal of others will work very well and have my work arounds for it vis the Wwg.

However will still keep an open mind in case I'm wrong and further check that out in the future
as well.

Puzzles me a bit on prasna's yet as if I do actual spur of the moment on something personal it locks down tighter than a drum in extreme accuracy, but relating to someone elses moment is yet difficult.

Probably catch it correctly on others at some point though.

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[Resolved original event time prasna accurate as well one done from last toss which had the same lagna!

In event charts of unknown timings or questions on other non personal areas such as this was and far away, *only the Wwg Iching in initial can accurately and reliably do*. If or once you obtain *later* Wwg *name verifications* in tosses related to original then you can use such time for an accurate Prasna as well.

One other interesting thing of the prasna of which I know little so far is that on distances to that lost or missing. So far just the miles part which is variable for around the location:

Used that and the range was from 16 to 32 miles which leaves very long distances out..

Howver he was found 18 miles SW of the prison.

So was pretty neat in that and have to make it a point now to find and learn all the other distance type calculations.

So expect all ok of President's stuff after tomorrow, may be the issues, but on other mentioned today Saturn's virtue is time itself, and would be 100% sure more to come of the rouge elements and beyond singular indivisuals for sure of the 5th type areas that's major yet.

That's of aspect and as long as overhead Saturn still in Libra areas it's both 5th and other areas too this year.

Relative and also of environments we still have dangers rolling in of the NW and far away from here too yet as on 1/5 that in Arora Colo and more than read 7.5 EQ in Alaska also.

Includes some other similar of W's, SW's and Middles and large areas surrounding those, etc.

Add vis the changes internal to it you had things of SE. NE and SW in them as well aside the line color indicators then where not directions areas the internal trigrams represent and other influences of the colors. Happenings of those areas and the energies internal to them were even are in motion makes for very fascinating stuff.

A lot of those of up N and centers too, that of the congressional votings in some manner or specific would be in it and other from pretty much any relative global area.

Don't think any toss ever get's 100% expressed as they take in so much more than probably any one person could visualize in and of the huge scope of things and situations they represent. So always room for you to add in this too.

So I never get too carried away even when I get a good result in an answer of stars alone at times, because there's always more than one way to do things and a lot that has bearing on other things gets overlooked too.

Also kinda why like adding the astro at points now too as provides other insights on the toss not always so apparent. Tons there to learn yet of relationships between two very different systems.

Didn't spend any time examining why was so little of rain aka waters here of last day or so but up to this point the elements of water have been weak and troubled each of the dates, and today day e was both that of it and wood elements which are weak.

Resting on this here for awhile and may pause until new solar month starts, so you can carry it forward ok at this point.

Have a safe and good weekend.

Had also found all the info on those for Jaimini and chara dasa's too in the classical reference's referred to as Sanskrit in my Parashara.

Probably is on an MP3 in Kala instead of text which makes it very, very difficult to find later if you don't write the MP3 number down and where on it it is. So when find will have to do that but got the info from Parashara so can start studies on the Jaimini system now as well.

Had said that Vedic is the hardest to learn compared to the Wwg, but the main of that is in just trying to find all the informations you need at the given time to do a particular type of chart. Eventually a lot will get memorized there but until then very slow going. Then the numerous of refined questions you have to procedureally answer to come any judgement or conclusion in a given area. Those take in a lot more details but in the practical are found much more quickly for that in the Wwg itself.

However the Wwg is actually the harder to learn or understand as for the most part aside from books, etc with rules the greatest bulk of what must be learned can only come from your continual practice and experience(s) themselves!

Finally found that other info in the Jaimini MP3 numbers 2 and 3 of the first set of 11 out of 22 MP3's on the original and pure Jaimini astrologies system.

Each MP3 may have 2-3 hours and some even more of class on it so very, very time consuming to learn but in those discussions one will often pick up *more tips on any area* than is written in actual books you could buy, so works out. Just rough for cataloging what's where and where on them a headache at times is all.

Resolved a lot about the karaka stuff today.

Mainly those are hiearchical like the Wwg which only uses 5 stars (levels) to produce and make, to control or kill, also to bond and clash, etc.

In astro had only been used to using the *natural karakas* where the Moon always the Mother, the Sun the father, Venus the wife, sweetheat or girl friend, Jupiter the children, etc.

That of a conventional horoscope chart.

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In Jaimini there are two more tiers:

One of 7 and one of 8 for those which make entirely different assignments based on degrees. Turns out very useful for the basic chart and that tells you who is what and their type of relationship to you in this life.

Important stuff as in some charts it may show your wife in your friends house as the proper relationship.

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So if you try to apply mainly conventional views of a wife's role in a marriage your going to have a bundle of problems!

That's even if you married under the conventional and in some cases what were totally correct timings for that, but later things turn out much differently then expected from either parties view.

So you can see how useful it is for you to understand that if you want things to go smoothly.

Quite amazing stuff.

That would also apply in much higher things in other areas to do with business or govt's and their relationships, etc too.

Now I need to see exactly how well does that work in various event charts by taking former tosses where have questions in correct areas on others and then can see 100% which karaka method actually fits best in those.

Should that turn out to be one of the Jaimini types then that tells me which I should be using in all the other event charts too.

So moving along.

Note:

Sometimes anyone can get too stuck on a particular word or word's meaning used in descriptions themselves.

In that of 3rd line meanings of a Wwg toss that of the far and wide is in the relative sense only.

It all depends on either what your question was about or what exactly is being described at the time.

Relative weather areas it can extend to the far and wide, but relative one's home it may extend to it's middle areas, borders. the next door neighbor's, the entire block your on, to the surrounding countrysides or any town(s) your associated too, even states, countries and further, etc.

Pretty close to the same for the 3rd bhava areas used in astro too with more stuff.

Everything on lines are definitely relative to *that being described or discussed at the time*!

Wwg and Prasna:

On the side between the Wwg and the Prasna have been finding some interesting relationships too.

Doesn't say or mean that one is derived of the other but that logically to express the same thing or get the same answer for a given question or event, certain areas must have corresponding relationships.

Same true relative Western horary too.

First one have noted there is when B stars are prominent in some of the hexagrams there's also a related and active area of 11th bhava activities in the given event chart and the Prasna charts too.

Anyway finally got it down on the answering of Y/N questions using all three systems.

The Wwg Iching tosses the only one which doesn't require the time of an hour and literally where can all be done in a very condensed way by hand alone. Then the others obviously do provide more details, etc but not quite so speedy in that as main traits, etc.

In a strong way it was very good to do all that as it ended up giving me a more detailed Wwg understanding of what all one should look for beyond that normally taught and done in the Wwg in the reaching of any *solution*.

Getting away from those had learned the normal vedic horoscope and tajika system for Varshaphala year, etc charts system before. Including most of the various dasha systems and very strong in the Muhurta chartings as well.

In class was said many of their astrologers just ended up focusing on one system only for the most they do, with the Prasna itself a combined good for all type.

Though think if can by efforts do the more the merrier and by knocking out the Prasna aka the hardest seems it's all downhill from there. Got the two most main modules of that done so expect the rest won't be any difficulty at all.

In that have to learn more on the spelling and initials of person's names part as know some able to do that but to what accuracy versus time need to figure out and have actually seen it work too.

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Do *have a lot more to learn* on the totally separate of the Jaimini system an encrypted type!

There mainly to start with is how the graha's themselves calculated in it as well as exactly how they are used in main interpretation uses yet. Altogether it's a very refined and totally separate system of the vedic astrologies.

Had in a good mood at the time mentioned to someone might try to do more outside stuff this next year, but was mood of the moment. Wouldn't get too far in it as extended movements always takes me down and in this last week haven't gotten much or as much sleep as needed as getting woke up by pain more which has me sort of worn at this point.

Hope just a phase of this month itself and the med's control that a little better again the next one on.

Other:

That of other page was done day after watching a documentary on the events of a long pasts date then.

That of "The Authentic Iching (C) book" out for years now has *timed charts* of all major U.S. assassinations plus several of our older wars plus the 9/11 attack was in it too.

Along those lines had wanted to see how a toss on that quite old would work out and as an example for a past based history type.

Can't get all in a single toss but was interesting how well it exactly correlated to actual aspects of the frame and event.

Also couldn't say such could be got that well every time by any one person and it is quite very time consuming to do properly as well.

Actually maybe younger and clearer minds could or just those advanced enough and who happen to be in decent or good health. Health sort of achilles heel for me as my energy levels not that high to start with so one long session on a pair really drains me at times.

Spending more time on the vedic sides after do certain tosses and finally started working with yoga's for first time as had shyed away from those quite a long time prior.

An area the teacher of the course for good reasons says is highly over hyped or rated, but find when I use those just to look at and analyze a chart itself see it does have some very practical and even profound uses in that sphere.

Likely to insert a bit at times to illustrate that.

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